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How do I restrict keynote to one screen

My macbook is using a second screen. How do I restrict keynote to only show the presentation on one of the screens?

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), Quad Core i7 15" 10GB RAM

Posted on Nov 3, 2013 6:45 PM

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Posted on Aug 22, 2017 11:18 PM

That really is a ridiculous design. Clearly no-one in the Keynote dev team actually uses the product, or they'd quickly discover how impractical it is to take over the other monitor during a slide show, especially when presenting a webinar where you need to see lots of other windows in relation to questions and chat messages from webinar audience members. This fatal flaw in Keynote is forcing us to now use—wait for it—Google Presentations in webinars because in Zoom we can choose to show only that browser window, leaving screen real estate available to place the Q&A, Chat, Attendee list etc. via the Zoom.us software.


While we're at it... Keynote should also provide an option to display a slide show in just a portion of the screen to leave what's around it available for these other app windows. I have a large monitor in front of me, plus my MacBook Pro and using Keynote for webinars is not feasible due to this "we will take over all your screens" flaw in its design.

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Jul 14, 2015 1:33 PM in response to Gary Scotland

The "bug vs feature" debate is something that experienced developers usually avoid. This is really a subjective issue that depends on what the user wants to do. In that respect, if a feature severely limits a software tool's utility for that user, than that "feature" is a "bug" for that particular user. Perhaps this ongoing "debate" can progress by suggesting that Keynote should offer an additional feature that would allow the user to have access to the non-presentation screen.


Powerpoint does have this feature: While in Powerpoint, click on the "Slide Show" menu item; then, click on "Set up Show"; finally, select "Browsed by an individual (window)" and you're there!!!


Indeed, I have abandoned Keynote in favor of Powerpoint, at least for the task of recording presentation screencasts. Say what you will about the Windows community but it tends to be more responsive to customer preferences and requests. What amuses me about the Mac community is that some (not all) of its members often take a dismissive and patronizing approach to customers and then insist that they know better about a particular customer's software needs than that customer himself (or herself) knows.


In my case, I'm still a huge fan of the Mac world and I plan to stay for the long haul. However, I don't take dogmatic positions on software tools and I will continue to use the best tool for the job, no matter where that tool is.


To summarize, your best advice is this: "If you don't want this symptom, use another application." I completely agree and I was already there. Big win for MS Office Suite in this round! Go Powerpoint for Mac!!!

Jul 14, 2015 1:51 PM in response to Joseph Ciccio

Yes, but "command tab" toggles you in and out of presentation mode. It does not give you access to the non-presentation screen, while in presentation mode. This is the desired feature for Keynote that is not presently offered. One benefit of this feature would be that you could access screencast recording tools during the presentation. (Recall that animations only work in presentation mode.) Also, you could access tools to write over a presentation slide, while recording a screencast. Furthermore, you could conveniently monitor real-time responses to the presentation, and so on...


Users in this thread are clamoring for an additional feature in Keynote that would give the presenter access to the non-presentation screen. Luckily, if you must have this feature, it is offered by Powerpoint and Powerpoint for Mac.

Jul 16, 2015 10:11 AM in response to goldtrotter

The "bug vs feature" debate is something that experienced developers usually avoid. This is really a subjective issue that depends on what the user wants to do.

You have confused two concepts;


a software bug is a fault in the application code, producing an incorrect or unexpected result.


a feature is a tool provided within an application,

if a feature severely limits a software tool's utility for that user, than that "feature" is a "bug" for that particular user.

What you have described is a feature request; a tool that a user would like to be implemented in an application.

That wanted feature may be technically possible, or it may not be technically possible.

A feature request is not a bug.


The result of trying to display a second application when Keynote is in play is not caused by a fault in the software or hardware. It is a well known phenomenon in applications that use advanced graphics rendering, for example; luminance keying which Keynote uses to render effects. This has been apparent since Keynote was first released in 2001. Keynote is not alone in producing this result, many graphics applications have exactly the same result: Photomagico, Adobe Lightroom, Quicktime Proplayer.


PowerPoint does not produce this result as it does not use luminance keying to render.


What amuses me about the Mac community is that some (not all) of its members often take a dismissive and patronizing approach to customers and then insist that they know better about a particular customer's software needs than that customer himself (or herself) knows.

In the interest of full disclosure; I currently know very of the needs of those who have posted in this discussion. What I do know is what is possible and not possible using Keynote on a Mac with this specific query. I use Windows, Mac and Linux and create interactive products in Director, PowerPoint, Keynote and Flash. We distribute on intranets to Windows based machines, iPad, dedicated interactive tablets and video servers.

This situation may change when hardware and software is revised.


Like many professional designers I use a number of tools to achieve desired aims, no single tool has every feature I employ.

Jul 17, 2015 1:06 PM in response to Gary Scotland

Hi, thank you for a well-reasoned response. I think we're finally getting somewhere, if Keynote developers take our feature request seriously. I still think that you're attempting to be too "legalistic" on the "bug vs feature" debate. Here is my full quote that you referred to above:


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The "bug vs feature" debate is something that experienced developers usually avoid. This is really a subjective issue that depends on what the user wants to do. In that respect, if a feature severely limits a software tool's utility for that user, than that "feature" is a "bug" for that particular user. Perhaps this ongoing "debate" can progress by suggesting that Keynote should offer an additional feature that would allow the user to have access to the non-presentation screen. (emphasis added for this reply)

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As a developer and a client, I'm sticking to this statement. From a client's point of view a bug is a "feature" that limits or impedes his productivity. So, a client includes a "design fault" within his definition of a "bug". On the other hand, some developers prefer a narrower definition of a bug that refers only to programming faults. Given that Powerpoint offers the feature that Keynote users are requesting, I respectfully insist that, from my perspective as a client, the lack of this feature in Keynote constitutes a "design flaw"; as such, from a client's perspective this is also a bug.

My insistence is not just a pedantic formalism. If developers don't take design flaws seriously and treat them with the same protocol as they treat bugs, then their clients will continue to be frustrated. Over the long term, frustrated clients that feel ignored cannot be good for anyone.


This allows me to segue into a response to your other comment above:


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"PowerPoint does not produce this result as it does not use luminance keying to render."

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Believe me, as an end user, this bottom line point is crystal clear: Powerpoint does produce the desired result but Keynote does not. Whether Powerpoint uses luminance or not is of no interest to the end user. If a Keynote developer is constrained by luminance in his ability to deliver the requested feature, that is an internal issue that he has to face alone. However, whatever he does, he cannot tell the end user that a desired feature that he is getting from a competing product is not really being delivered. This would either constitute delusional denial or simply patronizing dismissal of the client.


As a client, my bottom line is to deploy the features I need to be productive. Powerpoint does deliver here. On the other hand, as a developer, I can empathize with your being constrained by luminance. I have little doubt that you may claim that luminance offers superior results in other areas. However, if it cannot offer access to the non-presentation screen, then this is a serious limitation and the solution is not to tell the client that he doesn't need his requested feature. It is also not wise to deny that a competing product delivers this feature and Keynote does not; the facts on this are clear.

Jan 7, 2016 9:51 AM in response to Gary Scotland

I have got an easy solution for your problem.

Just follow me

1 Connect your mac to the projector

2 Open system preferences -> Display ->Tick - Show mirroring options in menu bar available

3 Tick -Use as separate display from your home screen.

4 Open keynote in normal screen mode and drag it to the left side of screen and boom it goes on to the display 😉😉

Now if you play the slideshow u can open other apps and use gestures

Mar 7, 2016 4:24 PM in response to andrewbatz

After tons of research around the web, I found a way to run other applications while running a Keynote presentation. Within Keynote's preferences, be sure the box for "Allow Expose, Dashboard, and others to use the screen." Next, set up Mission Control (formerly known as Spaces) do have your Keynote window on Desktop-1 and your other application's window on Desktop-2. Now hit "Play". At any point during the presentation, press "F" (to pause the slide show); Command-2 (to switch to your alternate application); Command-1 (to switch back to Keynote); and Space Bar (to resume). Your clients will see only one slide for the duration, and will not see anything you are doing on virtual Desktop-2.

Sep 21, 2016 9:15 AM in response to andrewbatz

year 2003 i had an HP Laptop Pentium 4 3.2 GHZ... man it was a beast... it weighed 11Lbs. but those were the good old days... it had a dvd player... separate graphics card... i don't remember the ram but it was probably 256 MB... Laptop had a S video Out and thats what i used to connect to my NEC projector.

that was the best set up i had...

with that thing running Win XP and i was using Office apps like everyone else those days. On Office XP, power point slide show would open in a new window. and i could do bunch of other things while my presentation running nicely on the projector. those days Power point couldn't deal with videos.. or if it did the slideshow would be so large you need it a workstation to run it... so i used DVDs just pop in the laptop that video would take over the projector screen thanks to dedicated S video out... run the video flawlessly..

Power point Slide Show had its own window when you wanted to go to the next slide or animation, first you would click the tab for the slide show in the bottom of your screen than you would just hit next arrow from keyboard, or simply click once more in the window for the side show...

I was playing music as well as power point presentations. winamp was the best mp3 player... fast..


i believe since 2010 power point changed the way it does the presentation. I started using Mac 2008, i kept my windows laptops just for this reasons...

but now Im all mac and loving it... so its one of those things you have to learn how to live with it...

so what i do now..?

I prepare a desktop background related to the event im doing and put that on the projector screen...

then if i need to fix something on keynote or change something quickly or I need to show something from safari...

so when i escape from the keynote audience sees something related to the event rather than a random desktop picture... Im saying all this thinking you all know how to use two separate screens..

and when it comes to my music i just play the music from my iPhone 6S plus... Spotify is my newest love affair...


yes its frustrated to know i was able to do certain things better and easier in 2003 than 2016... but now i include most of my videos in keynote too and it never failed me... i havent used power point in a long time, but it used to take time to prepare the shows with so many videos... and it would crash when there are XXL video files.. Keynote dent have these issues..


off course this separate window for a slideshow is one thing that needed...

on Keynote as of now you can't do anything else on the computer when Keynote is playing slide show...

Oct 23, 2016 6:41 AM in response to Gary Scotland

Having transitioned from the Windows world to the Mac world, I can guarantee you not all application behave this way. I cannot understand why presenter view must take up the entire second screen. We are simply asking for us to be able to make this window smaller so we can still manage the presentation as well as work in other applications.

How do I restrict keynote to one screen

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