Macbook Pro Retina 13" late 2013 (Haswell) UI Lag

Same here, intel iris MBP retina 15",

- resizing windows LAGS BAD (both in mavericks AND windows7sp1 bootcamp)

- scroling is ok, but not so good.

- if thunderbolt adapters are pluged in (like ethernet) you don't get any sleep option in bootcamp ...

- playing youtube HD in bootcamp 'skips' alot

- controlling your mac from windows through built-in vnc is terrible! - worst remote experience ever.

Hope for a fix SOON!

(using bootcamp for work necessity ...)

No fix. macbook pro 15" intel iris.

No fix in bootcamp win7 witch i have to use for work daily!

itunes got updated.. but i use it only for updates so don't care much...

apple?? how about those video drivers!?!

A " certified apple tech" ? He went to an apple school or something? I was windows certified once but my brother that was like 14 kicked my a** in all aspects regarding IT...

Anyway folks, leave the displays alone, nothing wrong there. It is ONLY a software issue, you can make maveriks run on a pentium4 if you optimize it. (and that is a fact)

From the first problems reported it shouldn't take more that 1-3 months for a TEAM of developers to have a fix ...

That is, if anyone cares.

It is the drivers and the os implementation - just now resizing firefox is so bad that it makes me think i have such old hardware...than I see a 3000$ aluminium machine and well... have to bootcamp 😟

I've EXACTLY the same lag problem. I just bought 3 days ago the $1299 model with Mavericks, and it's pretty laggy. C'mon, Apple, we need a true solution for this.

i've got this issue on the retina 15 base model late 2013, it's also stuttering when you watch a youtube video on safari( a lot) and a bit even on chrome... i am very disappointed with this issue. i don't care about the UI lags becouse they are a secondary problem, but the youtube video lags are a serious problem.

i made few comparison between this macbook and an old 15 inch 2011 model, and it hasn't any lag!

That's insane. How can a 2011 device be smoother than a brand new 2013 one? I think they should fix it up VERY soon, uh.

I am also experiencing this on the 8gb/256gb/2.4gz late 2013 13in rmbp that I've owned a week.

Open say the verge or even yahoo.com's website, then try swiping to other desktops, going to the empty desktop = fine, going back to the yahoo or verge safari desktop = chop chop chop chop. Try just having that same verge/yahoo page open in safari and swipe to mission conrol (with no other windows open), it will stutter. Scrolling in itunes = choppy. Try scrolling or swiping between desktops with a single youtube video playing = choppy. Don't even get me started on the Microsoft Office products lagging.

Today is my last day to return the laptop, and I'm so close to doing so that I actually brought the box and stuff to work so I could return it on my lunch if needed. What made a monumental change in my decision was doing as the OP did (because at first I was about 50/50 on keeping it), run display menu at the same "best for retina" resolution. Quality goes down a little, but previous the mentioned lag has been greatly relieved, making me come to the same conclusion as the OP, iris 5100 (13in models for late 2013) are just not ready yet, which is sad, I expected a goof in the first generation, but the second? I'm starting to become HIGHLY skeptical of Apple's quality control, who the **** thought it would be smart to put a HD4000/4400 (a gpu used in machines with 1/4 the pixels) into a machine pushing 4 times as many pixels? Any serious testing for the 1st gen or the late 2013 would have found the lags I have mentioned. I'm sorry, but not $1500 machine should lag when ONE youtube video is running lol.

I should be able to use any resolution I want that can be chosen under the "Display settings" WITHOUT lag. This is a poor decision on Apple yet again, first 1280x800? My roomates 2009 mbp has this, 1440x900 should be the absolute minimum these days. But what is the point of 1440x900 and 1680x1050 resolutions if the experience is poor? Why give options that with make people want to return it? You can't give people a machine, and then tell them to only use some of it!

Only plus side so far has been the acceptable battery, you can pull off an average of 7-8hrs with real, prolonged usage. But definitely use Safari, I'm a firefox fan, but it really does help with battery.

Iris is not ready for retina. I would be curious to see what iris pro is like a 13in retina, maybe then it finally be powerful enough? Unless ALL you look at is google searches, forums, PDFs (with the built-in viewer, Adobe reader has horrid chopping like chrome and firefox), and sites with no javascript/flash/lots of images (which is about 70% of the internet gone), then I would hold off one more generation, or get the 15in with a discrete gpu and walkout bent over because you just got boned ($2500... still ridiculous). The air has a an older screen, but the performance for 1.3ghz is great and at least you can justify any lack of performance with almost 15hrs of battery life and being almost frisbee light.

For $1500 I expect a smooth computer, I do not feel like I am getting my moneys worth at all. Yes the screen is awesome, no one can deny that, but how much is it worth to you? It is not worth a poor user experience to me, the MBA's screen is still pretty good, not awful like I see some people saying. Apple should have either limited what the 13in could do to avoid experience issues (ex. not allowing higher resolutions that lag), or made the machine fully capable of those resolutions and TESTED IT.

I have tried deleting cache, pram reset, the whole autocad 2014 thing, nothing resolved my issues... kind of ****** I was even put in the position where I had to try these on a brand new machine. So unless someone has found some miracle setting that resolves the lag and would be kind enough to share, I'm returning this thing in a few hours and waiting another year (this is a secondary machine).

Please forgive my rant, lots of held in frustration over the last week lol, and the fact I have to pay 15% restocking at the place I bought it, my own fault for not researching their return policy though.

I've had the same issues with lag/choppyness and I have the same exact setup as you. When I plug my retina into a 27 apple cinema display at 2560x1440, and put the retina into clamshell mode, all of the lag/choppyness goes away. It seems like the retina is having problems pushing all of the pixels when using the scaled resolutions. Hopefully it's just driver issues at this point, but who knows.

Yeah I agree, but this was at the "best for retina resolution"! Iris can push non-retina resolutions much better. Better quality control within Apple could have easily found this, or just given a few out to people to test drive.

I was so excited about this machine and wanted it to work out so much because it was my first personal mac (Use them at work occasionally), but Apple still doesn't have a handle on how much power retina screens in laptops really need yet. Maybe one (hopefully not two) more generations and they might finally put a powerful enough gpu in the 13in's. But then comes into question the battery life they would get, and even worse, the cost Apple would charge for such a laptop.

Apple needs to do something about the MBP line now that they have done away with non-retina versions (ok there is one still, but it'll be gone in time I'm sure), because yeah some people will just be mesmorized by the retina display, buy it, and deal with any lag or just hoping an update fixes it, but a lot of people used to turn to Macs for a smooth experience, and this is going to deter rMBP sales (I'm hoping, so it gets Apple's attention) until it is resolved. I would personally just get the 8gb Air instead if this was my primary machine after using my sisters, just told hold me over for a year or two, but being this is my secondary computer used just for fun, I can just hold off until things improve with the retinas.

I just returned mine. End of story.

I returned mine yesterday.

My roommate couldn't believe I would return it for a small lag. He's also the type of guy where you could hand him a paper of computer terms and he would go "mhm, mhm, I know some of these words!" (old movie quote rephrased).

What he didn't realize was that I got that lag doing simple stuff, so under a heavy load, I dread what it would be like... I do miss the screen though.

I have a similar type of issue with UI lag / stuttering on the MBPr 13", and would love to know if others are able to reproduce it:

1. Open iPhoto (I have a photo library with ONLY 30 photos in it from my DSLR)

2. Double click on a photo so that it is the focus of the screen

3. Notice that flipping between photos with the LEFT / RIGHT arrow keys leads to no stuttering issues

4. Notice that a 2 finger swipe to flip between photos does not lead to any stuttering issues

5. Click on EDIT in the bottom right to open the Quick Fixes / Effects / Adjust panel on the right hand side of the screen

6. Try to 2 finger swipe between photos and notice significant stuttering when the photo is about 80-90% of the way through the animation.

I'm currently speaking to Apple Support about this issue and will post a resolution if we find one, but I'm incredibly disappointed to see this level of stuttering / lag with an Apple application (iPhoto), on a brand new laptop under almost no load.

Same issue with my 15". I went to Best Buy to see if I could recreate the lag and when I couldn't I returned/exchanged mine. The BB display must have been the previous model because the lag is still there. For me it's most apparent when I open my Applications shortcut which is set to Grid mode.