Macbook Pro Retina 13" late 2013 (Haswell) UI Lag

Wow. I've just downloaded that tool and set my resolution to 1440x900 (not high res) and it's butter smooth now.... That *****. This is more than enough proof that the video card simply can't handle the retina screen. For me, the problem is most apparent on Google+.... as a tech enthusiast, this is one of my favorite sites.

Thank you very much wilda flex for this, at least now I know how I can make it smooth if I need to. (thank you thank you)

Oh Apple, can you please come up with some sort of solution or do we need to wait for the next generation of MBPr ?

I recently installed Windows Pro 8.1 just to compare and guess what it was buttery smooth. Everything worked actually almost perfectly. The hardware is capable for the so called retina resolution. Mavericks just hasnt been optimised yet IMHO. If it was not capable then it would've had UI lags on the native resolution too. Also I don't really understand people setting it for the non high res and telling that it is cool. Yes it does work smoothier but everything looks rubbish. So what's the point in even getting the rMBP. In that case it's better to get the MBA. Personally I prefer the IPS display for its better quality so I chose rMBP. Just hope Mavericks will be finally optimised and done as soon as possible.

iam2012 wrote:

Also I don't really understand people setting it for the non high res and telling that it is cool. Yes it does work smoothier but everything looks rubbish. So what's the point in even getting the rMBP. In that case it's better to get the MBA.

i understand your point, but for me the real estate is important, otherwise i would have bought the MBA 2013.

You can see the difference between highDPI and non-highDPI, but i wouldnt call it rubbish (does the MBA screen look rubbish?).

in the end im happy to have found a workaround until mavericks is stable in terms of UI.

regards

wilda flex

I have the highest end MacBook Pro Retina Display 15 inch late 2013. I am experiencing lag issues when scrolling through itunes, the app store, adobe creative cloud desktop installer, etc. It is very frustrating considering the specs of this machine. Before this laptop I had a 2012 MacBook Air which is half the price of the MBPR and did not have these issues. PLEASE FIX NOW APPLE.

100% agree with wild flex, I've been using non-hidpi mode (1440x900 is my preference) using RDM and my computer has been given a significant performance boost. You do lose some of the sharpness in things like text (most noticeably anyway) but videos, photos, etc are still seemingly exactly the same.

It's worth to mention that this feels like a proper macbook pro now, smooth as butter.

I certainly hope that Apple do come up with a solution to allow me to use HiDPI mode all of the time... shame.

BTW- The 15inch retina model is not affected, it's very smooth even in HiDPI mode.

What I don't understand is how an ARM processor in the iPAD Mini 2 retina can product such good results at very high resolutions whilist a dual core i5 with 8GB RAM struggless....

The 15inch model is affected greatly! I took mine back for this reason. Had the 2gb VRAM GT 750 model for video editing, it couldn't even handle FCP X smoothly! I was very disappointed. Same went for Adobe premiere pro CC. The only editing program I could use while I had it, (and it worked very well) we an old Final Cut Pro 6 copy I had. Didn't matter if it wasn't retina optimized. I had it scaled to the max resolution and the screen real estate it provided was like working on the 27inch iMac screen in its highest resolution.

cultavix wrote:

What I don't understand is how an ARM processor in the iPAD Mini 2 retina can product such good results at very high resolutions whilist a dual core i5 with 8GB RAM struggless....

This is called optimization. That's why the iPhone works smoothier on less powerful hardware compare to andriod phones. Mavericks needs to be optimized to work smoothly on new rMBPs

Yes, please fix! I am way beyond frustrated. I've had my rMBP for 31 days now and all of this is becoming unacceptable. If this isn't resolved soon, I will vow to never buy any more Apple products because the quality of the machines are not reasonably up to par.

I have a 2013 15" MacBook Pro with the NVIDIA GT 750M and I, too, am having major lag issues. Here's a video I made showing the UI lag when viewing a folder in the Dock in List view: http://j.mp/LZ3NLb I restarted in Safe Mode and then got this lovely graphical glitch in Mail: http://bit.ly/1gejis6

I have a brand new late 2013 13" rMBP, i5 2.4GHz, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD. I first noticed the lag in Firefox, then in Chrome, then in Remote Desktop client, and many others.

After 2 weeks of thinking the machine was just slow, and even exchanging it for another one, I realized that non-HiDPI resolutions are super smooth (I'm using RDM to set a non-HiDPI resolution). At the Apple Store they told me the apps I'm complaining about are not optimized for retina, that I should use Safari instead... even Safari isn't perfect, and I noticed a few lags in Mavericks UI too.

I'm very disappointed with this issue, it's my first Mac and this is spoiling the whole experience. What am I supposed to do? Keep retina disabled? What is the real issue? Maybe the Intel Iris isn't powerful enough? We're paying a premium to get a Mac and its retina screen, and I have to disable it to get smooth performances?

Not happy. I'd just like Apple to say something about the issue so I could know if it's going to be fixed in the future or not.

I guess the Air's specs could be enough for me, but I just love that on the MBP I can set the resolution to 1680x1050 and have more space. Plus the gray frame around the Air's screen is plain annoying to me. The battery life of the Air is very appealing though. And I was happy to get retina's image quality.

I'll still think about it and decide if I keep it or not. Maybe I could exchange it for an Air and see how it goes. I would just like to know if it's a driver issue, an O/S issue, a software issue (Chrome, Firefox, etc.) or simply a hardware problem with the Intel Iris GPU.

Honestly I'm very surprised to run into an issue like this, I thought Apple products were 99.9% perfect... I think this retina lag is a huge issue and I'm just surprised so many people live with it without noticing/complaining about it.

I reckon that the hardware is more than capable. It looks like a graphics driver issue. The 10.9.2 update is supposed to fix it, so let's wait and see. Most owners (read: regular users) might have not even noticed those annoying lags so Apple doesn't react quickly like it was with the antenna or scuff gates. Anyway let's see and wait.

i do share your belief that it is an software/driver problem.

just to share if it might work for you guys, was browsing the utility folder and found this app migration assistant. opened it out of curiosity (hoping to have my macbook fixed. reset etc.)

i opened the migration assitant app,

what it did was it turned off all my running apps (possible to have turned off whatevers slowing my rMBP down) then exit and log back in,

after that i noticed my rMBP UI is fast and smooth again. now back on its running feet instead of crawling.

even opened multiple apps and activate the mission control multiple times to see if its not a joke. it seems to have been fixed. its now running smoothly like the first time i brought it out of the box.