Macbook Pro Retina 13" late 2013 (Haswell) UI Lag

mg428 wrote:

On the one hand, it makes sense to deduce this from a logical point of view, on the other hand, I am not positive because I don't think the only 18% better performing HD 4400 compared to HD 4000 in the 1st gen rMBP* is the factor behind Yoga Pro2's smooth scrolling.

18% does make a difference though. It's not 5% but almost 20%.

Not sure 100% but looking at other similar devices that work smoother on hardware that is less powerfull yet more "retina ish" makes me think that it's rather drivers problems. Anyway Mavericks is only at 10.9 so let's wait and see what next update brings us.

I'm gonna probably return mine too..8 RAM 256 SSD.. It's frustrating to realize that my iPad 2 can run some websites better than my 1500 Euro Full Powered Computer. Really disappointing and confused.

Have been actually waiting for this one for the last 2 years. The first one is surely under powered, thought this one would be much better. Confused whether it's only driver problem that apple would fix, or everything else that apple would never fix

Same here. Been waiting for it for over 2 years. And couldn't even have a thought that it would be ridicoulously lagging. Doesn't even feel that it's got the faster ssd and quick processor as this annoying UI lag diminishes all the advantages.

Yeah..what is worth the whole upgrade to 8 gb RAM and 256 gb SSD..

I'm just gonna play safe and getting the base version of MacBook Air 13". And let's see where the computer world takes us in 2-3 years time. I think it is a transition mode at the moment. And getting a crap windows 8 PC is not a choice either. So MacBook Air is the best at the moment.

Not losing too much money either, so that in 2 years time I'll be just getting something that is established and also popular at the time.

Now I am also realizing everytime I scroll up and down on heavy sites, there will be some cranking sounds coming out from the computer on the keyboard area, as if the system working pretty hard on scrolling, try to listen to it by putting your ear right on top of the keyboard. It's not so loud though, but once you heard it you will always hear it and realize that something couldn't be really right!

MBA is a good choice too. But be aware there is an issue with the screen there. For example, when scrolling a website it smudges the whole image on the screen. Search "MacBook Air 2013 display lag" on youtube to see what I mean. This is one of the reasons I didn't get it. Also IPS is way much better than TFT which is used in the MBA. But sadly to admit, we already know that the rMBP 13 is quite far away from perfection too so just check your new MBA on arrival to avoid further frustrations.

oh thanks for the info.. yah but at least here in germany I could get it for 900 Euro with student price etc. (My MacBook Pro 1300 Euro). Is it happening because of Mavericks or is it failure on Macbook Air?

No problem. As far as I learnt it happens when an MBA has the LG display. So it's not a software issue. Works fine with the Samsung one. To check which manufacture you've got you should type in Terminal this:

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

It should tell you what display is in your MBA.

Aslo, it's said that Samsung dipslays have better contrast etc.

As far as I have learnt and searched, the hardware is more than capable to handle the retina resolution. But will Apple put any efforts to fix it or not, that is the question. I love the retina screen too. It's way much more of a plesuare to work with it. I haven't taken advantage of the SSD 256 Gb and RAM 8 Gb yet as I don't use any resource demanding apps at the moment. So to me it seems a bit of an overkill. I think I would be ok with the base rMBP 13 too. But as you already all know that it's non-upgradeable so I decidedI to go safe and get the middle range model. Anyway let' hope and wait for updates.

Why is it even when swapping for full screen lets say on Vimeo, the 2012 MacBook Air from my sister do it a tick faster, not significant though, but a bit shame.. Or is it only me experiencing this..

And on the welcome / log in screen after a cold boot, the apple logo on my rMBP even lagging also moving up..do you experiencing it also?

I hope it helps !!

JacopoFamularo

Hi there,

good news here: I just called Apple Support and the guy helped wonderfully!

What you gotta essencially do is: open the finder and then, from the menu bar, click onGo and Computer. In the window that pops up choose the column view and click onMacintosh HD, Library. In this folder you have to move to the trash the content of the following folders:

• Caches;
• LaunchAgents;
• LaunchDaemons;
• StartupItems.

Before acting the deleting be sure to copy the last three folders on the desktop, in a way to save a copy of their files. You have to move another element to the trash and it's something called likecom.apple.windowserver.plist and you can find this one guy in the Preferences folder (always in the Library one). Once done, DO NOT EMPTY THE BIN but close the Finder and go on the menu bar again and click on Go; while pressing the Alt/Option button, click on the Library voice (which is hidden and will appear only by pressing Alt). When opened, you have to do something similar to the other time; so

• Look for Caches folder and move the content to the bin;
• Look for the Internet Plug-ins folder and do the same;
• Again for the LaunchAgents folder (you don't need to save a backup of the files this one time);
• Move on to Preferences and look if the com.apple.windowserver.plist is present. If not, go back to the Library folder;
• Last, choose the Saved Application State folder and move the content to the bin.

Ok, now again DO NOT EMPTY THE TRASH but restart the computer. You should now have everything working as it was when you got the Mac.

Unfortunately I don't know if this will work for you and I don't wanna assume any responsibility for problems but it worked for me and my MBP is now superfast again.

Hope your one will be ok again and this post will help the others who could encounter the same issues 🙂

doing such a complicated way to repair something new and cost 1500 bucks, not acceptable.. but thanks anyway for the tips! 🙂

For the apple logo at welcome / log in screen: just tried it again on my sister's macbook air, it is moving smoothly!! just like it should be.

this is unacceptable, what kind of quality control are they doing, letting their own apple logo moving so BADLY on the WELCOME SCREEN, how could they miss it???

this is surely not a successful macbook pro, a fail product.

I can't even understand how could they miss it and just leave it like that! are they doing it on purpose?? if not, why are they then ignoring Mac OSX so much, the roots of the whole hyped iphone ipad and ipod

It's very annoying. I have the same problem with my mid-2013 MBPr 13''. The problem is when browsing websites(scrolling), everything else is acceptable, especially after mavericks which made everything a bit smoother. Unfortunately I think the biggest problem at the moment isn't Apple or Apple's hardware but rather the way which Firefox/Chome/etc are implementing the smooth scrolling capabilities. Simply compare a heavy duty site on Safari/Chrome/Firefox and you'll see that Safari is always much smoother at scrolling. I am forcing myself to use Safari which is kind of annoying because I use Chrome on all of my other computers (Linux/Windows work).

I have managed to play around with some settings on Chrome to make it slighly more acceptable. Let me know if you'd like me to share.

Here is my post on another Forum. My problem with the UI is now solved :

hi there,

same problem here. i had a mba 13" 2012 and wanted to switch to rmbp 13 because i need more real estate.

i sold the mba on ebay, but had a few days to compare my rmbp and mba side by side. both with exactly the same software configuration and OS Mavericks.

the mba was obviously snappier and i didn't know why.

after reading tons of threads, exchanging the rmbp one time and being frustrated i discovered this thread.

so i downloaded RDM, set the resolution to 1680x1050 (non-high-dpi!!!) and there it is, a snappy rmbp with mavericks.

(for me real estate is more import than a shiny retina thinggy, but also i don't see a bit difference between 1680 hiDPI and 1680 "normal")

i suspect the os isn't yet optimized, but i am far away from a software expert.

here is the link for RDM:

http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/commen..._resolution_to