Macbook vs. Dell

...And I dont know if
its just Toshiba's computer, It took a long time to
get the buttons to work.

OK, I was reacting to the DELL topic. The Dell's buttons don't need to be configured, they just work. Now, if someone erases the hard drive, or replaces the hard drive, then drivers need to be installed so the buttons can talk to the computer. But, just like the Mac, Dell includes an appropriate CD with drivers on them.

Is there a reason that now that you are a happy Dell owner that you are back here on the Apple forum talking about how cool it is?

Sounds like a troll to me!

The facts prove that the Coreduo Dell does not run cooler than the MB.



Intel 20" iMac + MacBook 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.7) Cube 450 G4

The facts prove that the Coreduo Dell does not run
cooler than the MB.

URL, please. Thanks!

Perhaps you could look at the URL in the first post in this thread!

Perhaps you could look at the URL in the first post
in this thread!

Hmmmm. I'm confused.... I thought you were referencing another URL. The first URL has a rather excellent article, which concludes with:


In the end, it appears to be that, in certain spots, the MacBook is significantly hotter than the Dell, but its average temperature is very close to that of the Dell. Take this information as you will. I ensure you that both laptops were checked with the upmost scruitiny. In my opinion, I think that the MacBook is a great alternative to the PC dominated computer market. It does run a little bit hotter than the dell, but I remind you that the MacBook lacks cooling fans that are built into the Dell.

C'mon, Rick... The MacBook is a hot little critter. It is my favorite computer, but the case design reaks on evacuating the heat.

Perhaps you could look at the URL in the first

post

in this thread!

Hmmmm. I'm confused.... I thought you were
referencing another URL. The first URL has a rather
excellent article, which concludes with:


In the end, it appears to be that, in certain spots,
the MacBook is significantly hotter than the Dell,
but its average temperature is very close to that of
the Dell. Take this information as you will. I ensure
you that both laptops were checked with the upmost
scruitiny. In my opinion, I think that the MacBook is
a great alternative to the PC dominated computer
market. It does run a little bit hotter than the
dell, but I remind you that the MacBook lacks cooling
fans that are built into the Dell.

C'mon, Rick... The MacBook is a hot little critter.
It is my favorite computer, but the case design reaks
on evacuating the heat.

"its average temperature is very close to that of the Dell."
That statement does not indicate to me the MacBook case design "reaks on evacuating the heat" Sometimes the upper left corner by the mag safe gets pretty hot...But I don't get what the problem is here, the heat does not cause damage and the MacBook still works. What is the big deal? You can't put it on your lap without a board? Then get a board. It makes your desktop hot under the MacBook? Get a cooling pad if that worries you. Mine gets hot and works fine does what it's supposed to do and that's all I ask for. As long as it does not burst into flames I'm happy.

Macbook, 2.0 duo, black Mac OS X (10.4.7) 80 gb hd, 2 gb ram, 5g ipod, 2g ipod

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That statement does not indicate to me the MacBook
case design "reaks on evacuating the heat" Sometimes
the upper left corner by the mag safe gets pretty
hot...

Sure, it reaks. Look at any of the take-apart-sites for the MacBook. There is no ducting or thermal sinking by the airport card and power-inverter card. Those two items produce nearly as much heat as the CPU. The CPU system cools down very nicely. That upper left area needs thermal evacuation. That's a poor design.

By my saying, "sure, it reaks" doesn't mean to imply that this is a terrible computer. I LOVE THIS COMPUTER. It has been years since I have enjoyed one as much as this one.

What is the big deal? You can't put it on your
lap without a board? Then get a board. It makes your
desktop hot under the MacBook? Get a cooling pad if
that worries you.

EXACTLY. Indeed, I'm one of the advocates of this and have listed several URLS in earlier messages as to the "best" lapdesks.

But, the original subject of this thread is MACBOOK VS. DELL. It isn't, is the "Macbook too hot?" It is MACBOOK VS. DELL. In that regard, the Macbook has some thermal zones that are warmer than the Dell, using the article in the website that you so aptly referenced earlier.

Mine gets hot and works fine does
what it's supposed to do and that's all I ask for. As
long as it does not burst into flames I'm happy.

I totally agree. ABSOLUTELY. It is an awesome computer. But, when comparing against other computers, if one is hotter, or if one is cooler, well, so be it. This is what we have.

Regarding the "bursting into flames". I think we are all at risk on having computers with that issue. But, it typically isn't the computer, it is the battery. Where I work, in the past ten years since we started getting portable computers, with a total of about 110 or so notebooks in various incarnations and replacements, in these ten years, we have about 20 puffy batteries, smelly batteries, and some that I actually grabbed the computer and removed the hissing smelling battery.

I think battery technology has improved greatly in the past five years. The exploding Dell..., I'm sure that is more common than we think, and even with the Macs, just that no camera was there.

Let the conspiracy theories begin......sony batterries blowing up Dell laptops....sony batteries blowing up Apple Ibooks.....oddly enough no Sony batterries blowing up Sony Viaos....
hmmn.....
What brand battery is in my macbook?

"oddly enough no Sony batterries blowing up Sony Viaos...."

i am getting suspicious here...

coincidence or conspiracy?

i think we should let agent mulder and scully handle this one.

anywho, who ever wants to jump on the dell wagon, go ahead. i've been on the wagon and traveled the oregon trail. and believe, many people died of cholera and snake bites.

Odd indeed, but I know from my automotive manufacturing background that the supplier specs out the items based on the OEM specs. Sometimes those specs may cut a corner or two and the supplier will still build it because their name is not on the item.

If the item fails then it is up to the OEM and the supplier to sort out who pays.

Another thought is that maybe Sony has a better design for their charger circuits, blasphemy I know, but possible.

Intel 20" iMac + MacBook 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.7) Cube 450 G4

blasphemy? no.

but tom cruise and his scientology certainly is.

i'm sure sony uses "Grade A" products on their machines and send out "Grade B" to other manufacturers.

just like how taco bell uses "Grade D" meat/poultry while george bush works hard for his "Grade C" [nudge nudge] [wink wink]