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How to remove dropout jeep

How to remove Dropout jeep??

iPhone 5, iOS 7.0.4

Posted on Dec 31, 2013 12:25 AM

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Jan 2, 2014 2:44 PM in response to Albatrosser

Albatrosser wrote:


Honestly the attitude here, which most likely is backed by Apple (judging by the moderation), is scary, and depressing.


P.S this post was deleted by unkown reason. I hope the one doing this next time will show me the courtesy of mailng me what parts of the TOU this violated that the post i responded to did not.

Yes, this site is owned by Apple. However, our opinions are are own. You're free to disagree with them, think they're stupid, whatever suits your fancy. What you think of my opinion matters not a whit to me, not because you disagree but because you've yet to say anything that makes me think your judgement is worth listening to.


The Hosts, the only ones who have the power to delete anything, only do so after they are notified of a potential TOU violation and after they have reviewed the post.If yours is the post being deleted for cause, you will get an email. If your post was a reponse to one that was deleted, you will not get an email. Sometimes posts get reported and don't get deleted. Generally speaking, the Hosts are far more tolerant of idoicy than I would be.

Jan 2, 2014 2:45 PM in response to Albatrosser

Albatrosser wrote:


deggie wrote:


Has the German government banned everyone in Germany from using them? Do you have a cite for this?


No, there is no government requirement to have total access the system software, not even for computers they use. The US government has probably bought more iPads than anyone else.


Again, opening the system software files, including copyrighted and patented material, does not make a device more secure it makes it far less secure. As someone else posted here even Google with Android does not allow all of their system software to be accessible.


Linux and other open source variants of Unix are the only OSes I know of that provide full source code access. Linux also has some trouble with viruses/spyware, etc. because of this, unless you are an experienced user and know how to lock it down.


So, to make it clear:


1. Apple has designed an entire security environment for iOS that includes a closed file system and sandboxing. This approach is far more desirable, and recommended by security experts, rather than an open system and relying on 3rd party software to scan for infections. And 3rd party scanning software would not work on iOS unless Apple removed sandboxing from the OS.


2. Apple is not going to change the entire design for anyone.


3. This is a user-to-user support site so none of us could make Apple change it.


4. Apple's executives do not read this site.


5. You can send feeback directly to Apple here: http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html


6. Android uses a more open OS (although not full open) so you can use their devices if you want an open file system. Maybe that is what Germany uses.


7. Posting here is pointless, can you understand that now?


1. No,that is not desirable for people concerned with their privacy, if it does not come with any option to validate your claims.


2. If Apple has their head up their. Then I am sure we will be many people avoiding these phones not respecting our own right to privacy and control.


3. But still, You are telling me you know exaclty what Apple is going to do or not do do Even though you are just a user, like the rest of us.


4. They should. And how do you know what they read or don't read? Do you have Jeeper on their phones?


5. Maybe this hosted support site could just be shutdown, if it is useless.


6. Yes, that is what was selected by the German government. it just feels stupid of Apple to be ignorant of concerns about privacy. It's sad.


7. If you are correct that this forum is not supposed to provide any value for Apples customers, then you are right. It is a completely pointless forum.



Honestly the attitude here, which most likely is backed by Apple (judging by the moderation), is scary, and depressing.


P.S this post was deleted by unkown reason. I hope the one doing this next time will show me the courtesy of mailng me what parts of the TOU this violated that the post i responded to did not.

1. The only way you will ever know everything about an operating system is if you design it yourself. Feel free to do so.


2. The vast majority of people prefer convenience over security, or realize that nitpicking such minor details are pointless. Do you test all the food that your purchase from the local store? How can you be sure that there's not something wrong with it? Did you inspect every square inch of your automobile when you purchased it, to make sure there were no tracking devices? Did you use an EM transmission detector before you bought your house, to make sure there were no hidden 'bugs'?


3. The TOU make it clear that Apple designates this as a user-to-user forum. You use www.apple.com/feedback to suggest changes.


4. Again, the TOU make it clear that Apple does not monitor these forums, and that the feedback channel is the appropriate method.


5. It's not a useless site. Look at how many people have answered technical questions. Just because this site is doing what YOU want it to do is no reason to shut it down.


6. Apple has the highest security system for privacy. Look at the FMiP function, Activation Lock, Passcode protection, Two-Step authentication, the Security Questions that must be answered before an Apple ID/iTunes account can be used on a new device, etc.


7. Again, refer to answer #5. Just because you don't like the answers, doesn't make the forum useless.

Jan 2, 2014 3:07 PM in response to Albatrosser

Albatrosser wrote:


Allan Eckert wrote:


They may violate the TOU in your opinion but not in the opinion of the Hosts.


Allan


So the point being made is that offensive OT stuff are allowed as long as it is a pro-Apple message, even if it clearly violates the TOU.

Nope


The message is that you don't get to make the choice, you'll have to live with it.

Jan 2, 2014 3:04 PM in response to Tapakovci

Tapakovci wrote:


It isn't easy to modify ROM, but it can be done.


- that's what I wrote.


Just like every other technical device.


- not true


fact: OS can be modified without physical contact with device.

fact: it is really difficult to find out if it's made profesionally


amen


If you mean via a wi-fi connection, such as connecting to your computer via wi-fi, yes. But that's tantamount to 'physical access'.


An iOS device's software cannot be modifed remotely, other than using the approved Appel methods such as wi-fi iOS updates or Find My iPhone access, which is limited to passcode locking a device or wiping it remotely, and then ONLY with the associated Apple ID & Password.


There is no confirmed way to remotely modify or access an iOS device that is not jailbroken. Period.


There are many 'rumors', but nothing ever proven. Therefore, until it is proven, it's not relevant for discussion.

Jan 2, 2014 3:01 PM in response to Albatrosser

Albatrosser wrote:


PRISM and Dropout JEEP only started to exist in reality once the documents got out :-D


If there are no leaks it is impossible for spying to exist :-D

So, you're saying that it was the release of the documents that brought the exploit into existance? So if I write about one and release a document, I can create an exploit without any programming? Now you've really taken a trip down the rabbit hole!

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