How to remove dropout jeep

I tried those, but they did not work for me sadly. The big guy did refund my money though :)

I don't use a case, maybe that's why?

Perhaps. I'll keep you posted. I gotta go, my neighbor wants to show me his new car. Personally, I think yellow is an ugly color for a Camaro, but apparently, he got it for a really good price. He wants me to look at the radio, it seems to be broken.

A canary camaro?

Needs a new case, obviously.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

piersonk wrote:

nbar wrote:

No,respectfully, because this isn't the forum for the discussion (no (a bit of) pun intended).

I see why you had to introduce the pun there. Because this is in fact a technical forum, for discussion among technical users, and I do believe the topic is relevant.

Folks here may not have the answer, that I can respect. But there sure seems to be a lot of answers (pun intended). Hey you never know unless you try right? This might have been the place to find the answer.

So I guess my next question would be, if the Apple technical discussion forum isnt the place to go for technical discussion on Apple equipment, where do you suggest one would look for well rounded technical advice? Not sure where to turn next.

If it can be proven that this technical issue exists, then it can be discussed here. Until then, it cannot.

For example: "Fellow users, I need some assistance. My iPhone 5S will occassionally levitate a few feet off of the ground, and then morph itself in some manner I cannot understand into a 6 inch tall bipedal form, with glowing red eyes. It then proceeds to fly around my house, smashing my appliances with laser beams that project from its eyes and hands. Is there a setting I can adjust to prevent this behavior?"

Just like the alleged 'technical issue' that dominates this thread, other users would probably require some form of evidence of this occurance before moving forward. My claim is just as outlandish, and unprovable, as the claim in this thread. And therefore, it has no place on this forum.

TJBUSMC1973: Thank you for your response and for your service to our Country! Ductus Exemplo

It appears we've already established that this may not be the place for this technical discussion and the question you responded to was, "Where do you suggest one would look for well rounded technical advice on the matter"?

The reason the question is being asked is due to recent circulation of documents very clearly outlining plans to infect and, subsequently, spy on iPhones. Not exactly "evidence" per sey, but enough information to raise the question, wouldnt you say?

The reason the question is being asked is due to recent circulation of documents very clearly outlining plans to infect and, subsequently, spy on iPhones. Not exactly "evidence" per sey, but enough information to raise the question, wouldnt you say?

Correct, that is not evidence of infection or spying, merely of a plan.

Where would I direct this question? To my state & federal representatives. If I seriously believed there was a working plan in place to engage in espionage upon American citizens, without a warrant or probable cause, then that's where I would go.

Based on my personal experience, I have no reason to believe there is such a plan in place. I'm sure there are national security officials that would love that capability, but wanting a thing is not the same thing as having a thing.

Csound1 wrote:

The reason the question is being asked is due to recent circulation of documents very clearly outlining plans to infect and, subsequently, spy on iPhones. Not exactly "evidence" per sey, but enough information to raise the question, wouldnt you say?

Correct, that is not evidence of infection or spying, merely of a plan.

A plan indeed.

A plan indeed.

You can keep posting your little sound bites but they are still meaningless, there are many plans that go nowhere at all, if you wish to fret about them go ahead, but they do not represent a technical problem.

TJBUSMC1973 wrote:

Where would I direct this question? To my state & federal representatives. If I seriously believed there was a working plan in place to engage in espionage upon American citizens, without a warrant or probable cause, then that's where I would go.

Based on my personal experience, I have no reason to believe there is such a plan in place. I'm sure there are national security officials that would love that capability, but wanting a thing is not the same thing as having a thing.

I hope you're right TJB, I really do. I guess time will tell.

Best wishes to you and yours good man.

PK

Csound1 wrote:

A plan indeed.

You can keep posting your little sound bites but they are still meaningless, there are many plans that go nowhere at all, if you wish to fret about them go ahead, but they do not represent a technical problem.

Dare I ask why are these rooms filled with such negativity and counterproductivity? I think an honest question is being asked. If you dont like it, dont post.

In response to your negative rhetoric, by saying "a plan", I quoted you.

You selected a part that you liked, if you want to quote me stop leaving out the parts you don't like. I quoted your complete sentence, have the grace to do the same.

Do not imagine that I am too dumb to see the manipulation of the posts.

We are done.

Prove it doesn't exist.

As has been more than adequately said, that's not possible. The fact that it isn't possible does not lend any credence to claims that all iPhone owners are being spied on or that there is a remote access hack.

The problem is, there's no evidence at all that either of those things are true. None, at all. There is evidence that the NSA developed spyware that could be installed through physical access. That's not particularly surprising. There's other spyware out there that is capable of the same thing. FinFisher, for example, can be purchased from a German company, and it is capable of doing the same things on an iPhone (given the physical access needed to install it).

http://www.finfisher.com/FinFisher/index.html

The disagreement lies with the supposed capability to install this remotely, on all iPhones, and with the cooperation of Apple. These kinds of claims have been made in an absolute void of evidence. There's no support whatsoever for any of that.

Csound1 wrote:

You selected a part that you liked, if you want to quote me stop leaving out the parts you don't like. I quoted your complete sentence, have the grace to do the same.

Do not imagine that I am too dumb to see the manipulation of the posts.

We are done.

Technically, the first part of your statement was quoting me. So I didn't feel the need to circularly quote myself to reiterate what you said I said. I was simply quoting the part that you actually contributed on your own, or the "plan" as you put it.

Csound1 wrote:

Correct, that is not evidence of infection or spying, merely of a plan.

Note that should be " there was a plan 6 years ago." We have no way of knowing if that plan was ever followed up. I suspect it wasn't, because if it was the Snowden papers would have had later references to it.

thomas_r. wrote:

Prove it doesn't exist.

As has been more than adequately said, that's not possible. The fact that it isn't possible does not lend any credence to claims that all iPhone owners are being spied on or that there is a remote access hack.

The problem is, there's no evidence at all that either of those things are true. None, at all. There is evidence that the NSA developed spyware that could be installed through physical access. That's not particularly surprising. There's other spyware out there that is capable of the same thing. FinFisher, for example, can be purchased from a German company, and it is capable of doing the same things on an iPhone (given the physical access needed to install it).

http://www.finfisher.com/FinFisher/index.html

The disagreement lies with the supposed capability to install this remotely, on all iPhones, and with the cooperation of Apple. These kinds of claims have been made in an absolute void of evidence. There's no support whatsoever for any of that.

Thank you Thomas! You're correct in saying there is no evidence at all, neither for nor against. I think thats really whats driving the issue is that we (nobody at this point) can neither prove nor disprove. And to say such a thing doesnt exist is inaccurate, as noted in your FinFisher example.

PS: I wouldnt hang up to much on the physical access point either. That is the most speculative point being made.