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Mavericks as a Intranet Server... without Server.app?

I am starting a new posting as it will provide the opportunity to give credit should someone be helpful or solve the issue... it is an extention of a previous thread which was most helpful in getting Apache, mySql and php up and functioning on my MBP Mavericks machine. My first shot was to post this on the Mavericks forum but that yeilded squat. You guys are so much more engaged!

Browsing localhost, localhost/~myname and a couple of sites I set up using vhosts in ~myname/Sites from the laptop is working as it should. However, I am unable to browse to these from other machines on my LAN using http://myComputerName or http://myComputerName/~myname. I spent a good long time before noticing something odd about the IPv4 Address for my laptop.... when I tried switching it to a static IP I got the message that the IP was already in use.

At this point I need to describe my setup... a MBP with Thunderbolt connection to an Apple Cinema display. The ACD is connected via ethernet and the laptop was connected to the LAN via the Thunderbolt. The network router is (unfortunately) an HGV-3800 whose radio is turned off. Wireless in the household is accomplished by a Time Capsule in bridge mode. Most of the time I use the ethernet connection but can use both as needed.

A quick browse of devices on the router revealed that the IP being used by my MBP/ACD had an unknown device name while all the other devices in the house had their names... odd. So I fired up the wireless on the MBP and took another look at the device list... the router listed this new connection with my correct device name. Even better, when I browsed to http://myComputerName and http://myComputerName/~myname from another computer on the LAN the It Works! and My Site Works! came up perfectly. However, the sites that i set up in vhosts will not come up on the other devices.

My interpretation of what is happening with the ethernet connection to the ACD is that this connection is not identified as being to my laptop... it is to the ACD and somehow the laptop is borrowing it... surfing works and I can connect for file sharing to other computers on the LAN (though it is a bit clunky)... the borrowed connection is not up to the task of hosting on the LAN. My question about this is whether there is a setting I can make which will correct this behaviour and allow the Thunderbolt connection to function as if the ethernet was directly connected to the laptop?

The other more important question is what is needed to make the sites I have in myComputer/~myName/Sites directory browseable from other devices on the LAN... these same sites that are coming up perfectly when I browse from the local machine?

I ran across information on the HoffmanLabs site that seems to be saying that it is not possible to do what I am trying to do with the non-server version of Mavericks. Could it be that if you want to host sites on an intranet, that in order to get the DNS functioning properly, that it is necessary to install the Server.app?

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.1), Win 7 running on BootCamp and vmFus

Posted on Jan 10, 2014 8:12 AM

18 replies

etresoft

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Apr 5, 2014 5:09 PM in response to mark133

No one seems to have any idea what you are talking about. Perhaps it would be better to start a new thread instead of piggy-backing on someone else's question.

Apr 6, 2014 4:35 AM in response to mark133

This is far from clear. You say: "I'm clearing OUR system for citizens to use the internet" - whose systems?

I propose that you:

1 - start a new thread

2 - write a very short description of what you wish to do

3 - describe any difficulties you encounter

4 - include accurate error or other messages which you get

5 - do not include rants, opinions, hearsay or anything which appears to be paranoia

mark133

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Apr 6, 2014 8:57 AM in response to Neville Hillyer

Quaint. Reprimand me for laying down rights over the influence of public Internet control and then make personal attacks and lay down your demands for controlling my posting on a site that isn't yours.

I see this issue as precisely the same (in general terms) as the issue in the original post. I understand the theory that the less the public is overtly educated, the better from a security standpoint, but I disagree with that in its present extreme. I also disagree with the theory that character judgements should be used in conjunction with Internet security to secure open networks. That is a terrible practice and all too common lately. Current registration and verification technologies are sufficient for the needs of government and law enforcement without resorting to such continental forces.

At any rate, I'll drop my comments off this thread in order to avoid contentious argument.

Mavericks as a Intranet Server... without Server.app?