SATA to USB connector problem

The other user, Stevewhatever, is just here to argue. Simple fact is there are no SATA to USB adapters that are Operating System specific. They all work on every computer being made today or in the recent past, 0 to 10 years old.

They even work on computers that have NO Operating System installed on them.

Cunnla wrote:

Hi Steve,

Plotinus was referring not to the original post but to my last post in which I used the Greek word for "thanks" (thanks to Google Translate😊).

Regards

Thanks for learing that up I did not see that. Sorry to both of you.

TopSteve wrote:

You right about USB but the adapter is a diffent matter esp as Cunnla says it's powered.

Why is it a different matter, without explanation that statement is meaningless?

Tell us what you know TS

LowLuster wrote:

The other user, Stevewhatever, is just here to argue.

I have not seen any posts from "Stevewhatever" here but I am hear to give idears and any answers I can to problems that people have. It seems strange to me that when I give an idear or an answer some people like to shoot it down.

Back to the post "Simple fact is there are no SATA to USB adapters that are Operating System specific." If this is inresponce to some of my posts here then I ask you where did I say that this was not true? and where's your proof it is true? I can't say this is or is not true because I don't know the spec's of all the adapters but I am quite willing to accept and proof you might have.

So you are saying that you don't know?

I agree.

Here is an example of something you do not know, yet claim to be an answer.

1) The connector should be "E-SATA to USB3.0" most external HDs are E-SATA "External-SATA" and not SATA

Exchange the SATA connector for a E-SATA one.

The connector is SATA, not E-SATA.

Shall we go on or will you continue to misdirect the advice being given by posters who do know?

Csound1 wrote:

TopSteve wrote:

You right about USB but the adapter is a diffent matter esp as Cunnla says it's powered.

Why is it a different matter, without explanation that statement is meaningless?

Tell us what you know TS

I had to look back at my complete post to work out what you are asking of me.

Csound1 You know how hard it is for me to write long explations of what I know but you still ask! OK will tell you what I know and (I am sorry if I have some dysleisx..... slips)where I was coming from in the post you are quoting from:

From point of view of a electronics engernear.

1) If an adapter(any adapter) is not powered then it is simply a passive reagament of wires and/or other passive components like restores/capatoraters then the adapter will be universal and work no matter what and therefor any problem will be down to the other devices being used.

2)If however there is a power supply for the adapter then there is going to be some ative components like transistors and IC's. In this case if there is also some translation of protocols involved as in the case of SATA to USB then the IC's (chips) need some form knowing how to do the translation. This can be in the form of the way the IC's are wired or some form of control, iver inbeded or external computer control all of this is know as "programming". Some of this is firmware, some software and some hardcoded. None of this has to be system/OS dependant, but it can be.

3) TO HIGHLIGHT I AM NOT SAYING THINGS ARE OS DEPENDENT JUST THAT THEY MIGHT BE.

I am not argue just giving a replay to a question asked of me.

Csound1 wrote:

So you are saying that you don't know?

I agree.

Here is an example of something you do not know, yet claim to be an answer.

1) The connector should be "E-SATA to USB3.0" most external HDs are E-SATA "External-SATA" and not SATA

Exchange the SATA connector for a E-SATA one.

I do know what I talk about and so do others look at

"http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thecus-brings-sata-external-storage,1245-2.h tml"

TopSteve wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

TopSteve wrote:

You right about USB but the adapter is a diffent matter esp as Cunnla says it's powered.

Why is it a different matter, without explanation that statement is meaningless?

Tell us what you know TS

I had to look back at my complete post to work out what you are asking of me.

Why, the question, and the line from your post I am questioning is right there.

Nothing you wrote has anything to do with the question. But thanks for trying.

TopSteve wrote:

Csound1 You know how hard it is for me to write long explations of what I know but you still ask! OK will tell you what I know and (I am sorry if I have some dysleisx..... slips)where I was coming from in the post you are quoting from:

Yes I do, but you chose to post here and offer advice, there are no good reasons to exempt you from giving accurate advice.

TS

Clearly you either failed to read, or failed to understand the post you just linked to.

Meanwhile, eSATA and SATA connectors are not interchangeable, so you cannot plug a SATA drive to an external eSATA port.

The OP has a Sata drive, not an E-Sata, no bare drive has an e-Sata connector.

Time to do some more reading.

Csound1 wrote:

TS

Clearly you either failed to read, or failed to understand the post you just linked to.

Meanwhile, eSATA and SATA connectors are not interchangeable, so you cannot plug a SATA drive to an external eSATA port.

The OP has a Sata drive, not an E-Sata, no bare drive has an e-Sata connector.

Time to do some more reading.

Yes I made some assumptions and that may be where I was wrong but the assumptions where reasonable ones to make.

1) Yes the OP did say SATA but as it also sead "external HD" I had taken that to mean not a bear drive and there for, thought that the creation from SATA to eSATA was a valid one.

2)The OP "and just realised the maker's OS designation is Windows, not Mac." considering the make of the device was not given it was reasonable of me to ask so I could check but in the absence(with out having) this information the quick replay I gave ends up with the same resolut as the replay given from the others posting on this. Infact Cunnla chose LowLuster's answer as helped them so all's well.

3)The logic of my answers is still right and can be applied to other USB devices. I know of some USB devices that ARE platform dependant.

4) As for time reading I do take a long time reading and often look over things time and time again. I have the OP open next to this window right now so I can look back at it.

Yes I do, but you chose to post here and offer advice, there are no good reasons to exempt you from giving accurate advice.

Yes and I acept that. If I have given in accurarte advice I am happy to be created with out having gole posts moved.

3)The logic of my answers is still right and can be applied to other USB devices. I know of some USB devices that ARE platform dependant.

We are discussing hard drive connections, so please, link me to a Sata to USB connector, either cable or enclosure that is platform dependent, just one will be enough.

No more 'claims' without some kind of supporting data.

Csound1 wrote:

3)The logic of my answers is still right and can be applied to other USB devices. I know of some USB devices that ARE platform dependant.

We are discussing hard drive connections, so please, link me to a Sata to USB connector, either cable or enclosure that is platform dependent, just one will be enough.

No more 'claims' without some kind of supporting data.

I have not made any "claims" I could not give supporting data for. Yes my claim was off topic but this is a long discution of: If there are platform dependant devices comes from a must older post in this theard that claims that USB is just Hardware witch is not true. I posted proof of this quite some time back.

So to support my off topic claim (as you misunderstood my claim I will try and make it clearer) the claim is that: There are some USB device(may be not SATA to USB) that are platform dependant

http://www.usr.com/en/products/modem/usr5639/

That's a software modem.

This is ludicrous, believe whatever you choose to but stop bombarding the OP with it.

Csound1 wrote:

That's a software modem.

This is ludicrous, believe whatever you choose to but stop bombarding the OP with it.

Yes I know what it is. You ask for supporting data and if you had not chimed in then this "bombarding" would have ended with yesadays post.