Editing Flash movies

Hi,

this is a pretty weak question, but I know these forums are the best; so I know I can get the right answer to my question.

I have been watching YouTube and notice that a lot of the people make "mash-ups" out of other people's posted video. YouTube is in Flash.
My question (I am o.k. at FCP) is how do they, what, "download" flash videos to edit into new mash-ups?
How is that done? How do you capture and edit some else's Flash video? And most importantly, can you do it with FCP?

Thanks very much,
Christian

G5 Dual 1.8, Mac OS X (10.4.7), 2G RAM

Posted on Aug 17, 2006 4:13 PM

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Aug 18, 2006 12:34 PM in response to Christian Newton

Christian,

I didn't know anyone could download those videos. I thought they could only be embedded into websites via code. I think that's part of the EULA that you agree to when signing up is that YouTube doesn't have a link, you can't download any of the video for your own use. That is a violation of copyright law, anyway, so why would you want to do it in the first place?

Jonathan

Aug 18, 2006 3:48 PM in response to 8Lincoln30

Jonathan,

First off, I've always thought you were right, too, about not being able to download those Flash videos. That's why I can't figure out how all these kids are editing each others YouTube videos.
I've emailed a few people whose YouTube videos are clearly mash-ups of someone else's Flash video, but no response.

With regard to copyright, you are right again. However, YouTube doesn't do anything about copyrights, unless asked. In other words, "we only take down copyrighted work when someone complains."

And complaints do happen, and content is taken down; but by and large, if you check out the site there is TONS of copyrighted material (examples, Daily Show clips, Family Guy clips, people re-cutting "Lost" and "Brokeback Mountain" footage to create spoofs, etc.). A lot of these mash-ups are made from traditional video sources (see the YouTube mash-up, "Must Love Jaws" -- a video Mash-up of Spielberg's "Jaws" footage. Clearly good quality video, not taken from Flash.)

Anyhow, I don't know about that copyright stuff just yet. Mash-ups are the bread and butter of a site like YouTube (check very good article about Mash-ups in Washington Post. I don't have the link, but search Washingtonpost.com for "mash-ups" and you'll find it)

In the meantime, does anyone know how to make mash-ups out of Flash videos? I'm sure it's very simple. No disrespect to YouTube, but it seems that most of the people contributing to that site are using pretty crude tools to make their videos.

Thanks again,
Christian

PS, if I do find out, I'll post back here to let you know.

Aug 18, 2006 3:55 PM in response to Christian Newton

YouTube keeps changing the way they post, so most of the solutions you'll find on the web don't work. But you can use SnapzPro to capture the video, and Audio HiJack Pro to grab the audio, and sync them up in FCP. In theory you can use SnapzPro to also capture the audio, but I couldn't get it to work - something to do with Flash audio, I suspect.

But anyway, this solution works fine, if a bit laborious.

Aug 18, 2006 5:51 PM in response to Maxplanar

Max,

I've been looking at Snapz Pro a bit since your post and it seems like it's an app for capturing whatever is on your screen (which is pretty cool in its own right), but I was wondering if you have used it to capture Flash only?

What I'm getting at is, how do you capture a Flash movie using SnapzPro without getting say, your screen's menu bar or the window frame in your downloaded movie?


Thanks again
Christian

Aug 20, 2006 4:34 PM in response to Christian Newton

Christian,

Good points. I'm not that computer savvy when it comes to Flash in the first place, so you have me there. And I agree with you about the copyright issue...YouTube does nothing until they are contacted. There's a lawsuit in progress with a photojournalist from L.A. Read it here and here's a discussion from a journalist/TV News media website forum I'm a member of.

Keep posting if you are successful

Jonathan

Power Mac G5 2.0 Mac OS X (10.4.7) 1GB RAM, FCP5.1.1 (Studio), nVIDIA GeForce 6600, Canon XL2

Aug 22, 2006 4:01 AM in response to 8Lincoln30

Jonathan,

thanks for the articles. Hmmmm..... maybe YouTube as it is now will change if the lawsuits keep piling up (actually, there's no "maybe" about it).

I'm going to go with Max's solution and try SnapzPro— it's too bad about the sound problem, but other than that it looks like a nice little program.

I'll post back and let you know the results.

Chrisitan

Aug 22, 2006 4:21 AM in response to Christian Newton

You gotta join a secret club to find out.

Ok.. Ok you oldies didnt hear it from me alright?

Open up a You Tube video page. Wait for your desired movie to download fully (little gray bar reaches end).

In Safari, Window> Activity

Scroll down to the video file - the one that ends in .flv

Double click. Voila! Its on your desktop!!

I'm sure you can figure out how to get it into your grown ups editing software from there 🙂

Aug 23, 2006 3:46 AM in response to Maxplanar

Max,

Just wanted to post back to thank you and say that SnapzPro is exactly what I was looking for. IT EVEN HAS SOUND!!

I was looking around and found this thread:
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=105696

The person who started the thread had the same problem as yours and same set up: G5 Quad, no sound. (He was using same solution as well—Audio Hijack Pro.)

The discussion is mostly about kernal extensions, and the poster eventually solves his problem (though not through this thread); BUT Ambrosia Software Administrator and Developers participated in the the thread which leads me to believe they're helpful.

Anyhow, thought you'd be happy to know that sound IS possible with SZP and your Quad.

About SnapzPro: It seems like a really handy program. I only had to try it for 10min before I was sold.

BUT, about using Snapz to record Flash movies: It seems a bit clumsy to start the Flash video playing, open the SNAPZ program, quickly select the portion of screen (video) you wish to record, then hit return to record. All the while missing whatever has been playing.

Am I missing some little trick or is that just that way it is?

Thanks very much
Christian

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