Stuck or Hanging Notes

Hey All,



I'm trying to sequence my Korg Triton with Logic (and did Pro Tools as a test)

when i do this it works fine for a while then i tend to get hanging notes or stuck notes.

does anyone know the cause of this and or fix for this,



Thanks

Logic Pro X, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Apr 8, 2014 11:19 PM

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Apr 9, 2014 12:14 AM in response to digitaltracks

Thanks for the response Eriksimon,


i have a Digidesign MIDI I/O as my midi interface but it was doing the same thing when i had it hooked up directly to my Digi 003 Rack MIDI Ports,

i will try some different MIDI Cables as i have some cheap ones and some Monster Ones,


yes i was thinking about trying a different MIDI Interface like a MOTU but i dont want to buy one and then have the same problem, im not sure where i can just borrow one from,


i will try your suggestion

Apr 22, 2014 1:31 AM in response to digitaltracks

i still haven't fixed this fully,

(I'm working in cycle mode)

but i will say i went to File > Project Settings > Recording > Create Take Folders

& i haven't had any hanging notes yet using this mode

however when i go to File > Project Settings > Recording > Join When Cycling

the problem comes back.

i haven't done enough testing to see if this is actually the fix ill have to wait a few more days or weeks to find out. the only problem is i prefer to work in "Join When Cycling" mode.

are any of you guys using hardware synths with logic without any problems? if so please let me know

Apr 24, 2014 12:56 AM in response to digitaltracks

digitaltracks wrote:


I will note this isnt happening in Pro Tools only Logic on exactly the same setup,


This is very odd, & i cant seem to find a fix yet.


DT,


If I'm not mistaken, ProTools uses a proprietary MIDI driver (as opposed to core audio) when used with Digidesign hardware. There's a chance it's the Digidesign "Core Audio/MIDI" drivers that are causing the problem. Do you know if the Digidesign/Avid core audio drivers are 100% Mavericks compatible.


You might want to check the ProTools forum and confirm that Protools uses a proprietary MIDI driver, I could be off base here but it would explain why you're not seeing this behavior in PT.

Apr 24, 2014 1:50 AM in response to digitaltracks

PC,


im using the drivers from here,



http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/Digi-002-003-Drivers?retURL=%2 Fpkb%2Farticles%2Fdownload%2FDigi-002-003-Drivers&popup=true


im using driver 11.1 which states it is mavericks compatible


i will say i tested on another computer ((fresh install of Logic and Mavericks)) (running an m box 2 & had the same problem) so i think youre right it could be either Digi's drivers or Logic itself, im just not sure what to do about it?

Apr 24, 2014 3:10 AM in response to digitaltracks

digitaltracks wrote:


PC,


im using the drivers from here,



http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/Digi-002-003-Drivers?retURL=%2 Fpkb%2Farticles%2Fdownload%2FDigi-002-003-Drivers&popup=true


im using driver 11.1 which states it is mavericks compatible



It's compatible up to 10.9.1... the 11.1 drivers were released in November so they may not be fully 10.9.2 compatible. Not sure what you're running.


PT uses a proprietary driver system, it doesn't use core audio/midi. The Driver download in the link you posted contains both drivers PT proprietary and Core Audio/MIDI drivers. Avid is traditionally behind on Core Audio/MIDI driver updates... who knows how old the drivers are.


Here's a link to the "Reaper DAW" it's an amazing piece of software that's only a few megabytes in size and adds nothing "extra" to you system, no resources being used or anything else, one of the cleanest pieces of software you're ever see, and extremely capable. If you install it (30-day trial period) you should be able to see if it's Logic producing the sticking notes, Reaper will use the same drivers Logic does. If notes still stick you will need a driver update from Avid/Digi.


http://www.reaper.fm/download.php


(I'm not associated with Reaper)

Apr 24, 2014 2:34 PM in response to digitaltracks

Well, at this point it looks like it's Logic, from my limited experience with Mavericks and Logic I can tell you that on a couple of 4 year old Mac Pros (not mine) the program is very sluggish.


There have been severalother posts of sticking/hanging notes, mostly attributed to the interface being used but this is the first time I suggested trying another DAW that uses Core Audio. I don't think Reaper installs it's own MIDI driver... I will check on that.


Nigel, are you following this?

Apr 24, 2014 4:40 PM in response to digitaltracks

DT,


You did say you were woking in Cycle mode when this happens.. correct?

Could "note off" messages be missed?

In Logic's SETTINGS, go to MIDI and "Chase" There should be some settings at the bottom related to Cycle Jump. I would have "Notes" selected as well.


Also, in Logic's Preferences under the General Tab select Cycle and look at the settings there.



In case it's preferences related definitely give this a try:


Delete the Logic 10 preferences file AND the shared control surfaces file.

(Note: be sure and use the tilde ~ in the path name.)


In the Finder, choose Go > Go to Folder from the menu.

Type ~/Library/Preferences in the "Go to the folder" field.

Press the Go button.


Remove the com.apple.logic10.plist file from the Preferences folder. Note that if you have programmed any custom key commands, this will reset them to the defaults. You may wish to export your custom key command as a preset before performing this step. See the Logic Pro User Manual for details on how to do this.


If you are having trouble with a control surface in Logic Pro.

then delete the com.apple.logic.pro.cs file from the preferences folder.


Be sure and remove both files. (with Logic not running of course) next time Logic boots these files will be recreated.

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