delaying packets by 5 seconds?

Aug 22 19:53:33 daves-g5 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (FE80:0000:0000:0000:0214:51FF:FEA6:E5FA); delaying packets by 5 seconds
Aug 22 19:53:36 david-charles-imac-g5 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 ( *.***.***.**); delaying packets by 5 seconds

I was recently introduced to the console appIication and I think I might be spending too much time looking at the logs. LOL

Anyway, is this anything to be concerned with?

imac g5 isight, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Aug 22, 2006 5:12 PM

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Aug 23, 2006 9:28 AM in response to DaddyPaycheck

Well yes, I do. But, I am interested in knowing what a delay of 5 packets contributes to.

And, also know why I get this message alot:

Aug 23 00:45:24 david-charles-imac-g5 crashdump[518]: SystemUIServer crashed
Aug 23 00:45:27 david-charles-imac-g5 crashdump[518]: crash report written to: /Users/davidcharles/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/SystemUIServer.crash.log
Aug 23 01:04:30 david-charles-imac-g5 /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: * Warning: Line option kATSLineIsDisplayOnly has been deprecated. *

Aug 23, 2006 4:07 PM in response to poops

As daddy paycheck has said, you may have 2 much spare time on your hands.
I doubt 1 in 1000 people can read or interpret many of the log files that are generated by computers to what purpose. Unless you are having a problem, I wouldn't worry about what you read in a log file. I think you will find if you do regular routine maintenance, you will be fine.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=122021
Depending o the type of connection you are using will determine the packet delay Dial-Up being slowest.
Cheers Don

Aug 25, 2006 8:28 PM in response to Baby-Boomer-USofA

Im also having a problem while in , "Second Life."
That is why I am concerned.

i was really hoping someone wasn't gonna just pull my wire about my "funny comment" regarding me spending to much time looking at the console.
There is a reason to my rhyme.

You see in Second LIfe, there is a level meter that shows you packet loss, and also a percentage. And makes the game lag, right?

You see im no expert thats why im asking and want to know, what my messages mean in the console. Believe me, Ive done searches within the forum, to at least give me some definitions of the messages, becasue obviouosly they are somewhat common, but it all depends on the context to say what they mean for each user that is receiving them.

I really don't want to waste anyones time in the forum, but if its regarding my system and playback , and functionality I need to know what I can, if i can, do to improve my system.

So these packet delays , and these other recurring logs as I mentioned in my first and second post. What is going on with my computer?

These are the most recent, after repairing disk permissions.

Mac OS X Version 10.4.7 (Build 8J135)
2006-08-24 19:10:05 -0400
2006-08-24 19:10:08.296 SystemUIServer[170] lang is:en

********
Disk Utility started.

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Determining correct file permissions.
parent directory ./Users/Shared/SC Info does not exist
Permissions differ on ./private/var/log/secure.log, should be -rw------- , they are -rw-r-----
Owner and group corrected on ./private/var/log/secure.log
Permissions corrected on ./private/var/log/secure.log

Permissions repair complete


The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume
Aug 24 23:17:06 david-charles-imac-g5 /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: * Warning: Line option kATSLineIsDisplayOnly has been deprecated. *
2006-08-25T03:25:23Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T03:25:23Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T03:25:23Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T03:25:23Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T03:25:23Z INFO: Unable to open filearguments.txt
2006-08-25T04:40:14Z INFO: Unable to open filearguments.txt
2006-08-25T04:40:14Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:40:14Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:40:14Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
2006-08-25T04:41:43Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:41:43Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:41:43Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:41:43Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T04:41:43Z INFO: Unable to open filearguments.txt
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
2006-08-25T05:26:15Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
Aug 25 03:26:39 david-charles-imac-g5 /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: * Warning: Line option kATSLineIsDisplayOnly has been deprecated. *
Aug 25 03:52:00 david-charles-imac-g5 mDNSResponder: Repeated transitions for interface en0 (69.242.221.219); delaying packets by 5 seconds
2006-08-25T08:23:38Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T08:23:38Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
2006-08-25T08:23:38Z INFO: QUEUED THREAD STARTING
LLErrorStream::crashOnError() failed to get mutex for log
2006-08-25T08:23:38Z INFO: Unable to open filearguments.txt

********
Disk Utility started.

Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD”
Determining correct file permissions.
parent directory ./Users/Shared/SC Info does not exist

Permissions repair complete


The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume
Aug 25 13:58:44 david-charles-imac-g5 /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: * Warning: Line option kATSLineIsDisplayOnly has been deprecated. *
2006-08-25 22:16:19.921 SoftwareUpdateCheck[669] Checking for updates

Aug 26, 2006 6:50 AM in response to poops

poops-

You are certainly not wasting anyone's time here. My remark about too much time was in reference to scanning the logs. They can be helpful at times, but generally it is best to try the simpler solutions first.

I am not a Second Life player, but I certainly can surmise as you have that the packet loss meter directly correlates to game lag.

It does appear as though something is wonky with the disk. Try the suggested repairs and see what happens and post back. I am not totally convinced that is the reason for the packet loss, but I have been wrong before and noting your logs it is something that should be addressed.

Luck-

-DaddyPaycheck

Aug 26, 2006 8:59 AM in response to poops

Hi--

Aug 22 19:53:33 daves-g5 mDNSResponder: Repeated
transitions for interface en0
(FE80:0000:0000:0000:0214:51FF:FEA6:E5FA); delaying
packets by 5 seconds
Aug 22 19:53:36 david-charles-imac-g5 mDNSResponder:
Repeated transitions for interface en0
( *.***.***.**); delaying packets by 5 seconds


This is nothing to be concerned about. It's explained on one of Apple's mailing lists. And in case you were curious, mDNSResponder is a part of the Bonjour system, which is how network services like iTunes sharing, file sharing, and the like, advertise themselves to other computers on the network. In your case, it looks like you made a change of some kind on your ethernet interface and that resulted in a short interruption in network services (a "transition"). mDNSResponder is just notifying you that it delayed sending out its packets for 5 seconds to avoid extra network traffic.

charlie

Aug 26, 2006 9:11 AM in response to poops

These are two different things.

Aug 23 00:45:24 david-charles-imac-g5 crashdump[518]:
SystemUIServer crashed
Aug 23 00:45:27 david-charles-imac-g5 crashdump[518]:
crash report written to:
/Users/davidcharles/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/SystemU
IServer.crash.log


The first lines are telling you that the program that manages the icons in the menu bar at the top right of your screen has crashed. If it crashes a lot, you might want to remove the com.apple.systemuiserver.plist file from your Preferences folder. You'll probably need to log out and log back in or reboot to see if it has any effect. Also, your icons in the menu bar will go back to the default, so you'll need to customize that display again.

Aug 23 01:04:30 david-charles-imac-g5
/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari: *
Warning: Line option kATSLineIsDisplayOnly has been
deprecated. *


This is just a warning to Safari's developers that an option they're using in laying out lines of text should no longer be used. It still works, but eventually it will be removed. It's nothing to worry about. and only Safari's engineers can do anything about it.

charlie

Aug 26, 2006 10:05 AM in response to poops

You see in Second LIfe, there is a level meter that
shows you packet loss, and also a percentage. And
makes the game lag, right?


Hmm. If I read this right, this packet loss is not the same as what's in your console log. Assuming the Second Life level meter is measuring lost packets between your computer and the Second Life server, that could be a problem with your internet connection.

You can look for packet loss using the Network Utility program from your Utilities folder. Once you fire up the Network Utilily, choose the "Ping" tab. First, set it to send only 10 pings, and enter a web address like Apple's (www.apple.com). Click the "Ping" button and you'll get your pings back in the bottom pane. Here's an example for me:

<pre class="command">Ping has started ...

PING www.apple.com.akadns.net (17.112.152.32): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=0 ttl=238 time=53.372 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=1 ttl=238 time=53.998 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=2 ttl=238 time=54.696 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=3 ttl=238 time=55.533 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=4 ttl=238 time=54.249 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=5 ttl=238 time=55.006 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=6 ttl=238 time=54.768 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=7 ttl=238 time=54.506 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=8 ttl=238 time=73.254 ms
64 bytes from 17.112.152.32: icmp_seq=9 ttl=238 time=54.967 ms

--- www.apple.com.akadns.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 53.372/56.435/73.254/5.635 ms</pre>Now, to read the output, you notice that all ten packets made it. If you have dropped packets, that's not good, as that can translate into slowdowns and missing data from the 'net. Second, look at the times for the pings. Notice how they're pretty low, and they don't vary a huge amount. If I was seeing times in the high 100's or above, or maybe there was one or two pings that were very high, while the rest were low, I'd be concerned.

In order to narrow it down, you'd want to check a couple of different servers. Try pinging Google and maybe Yahoo. Just choose servers that you know would have high capacity, as overloaded servers can cause ping problems. If you don't get any lost packets on these servers (and try each a couple of times, or change the packet number to 20 or more), then the problem most likely is with the Second Life server.

But if you get packet loss on all of the servers you try, then it's more likely to be a problem closer to your computer. You say you're on a cable modem. Do you have a firewall/router or is your computer connected directly to the cable modem? How you'd proceed from here would depend on what's between you and the Internet. You'd want to make sure packets aren't being lost between your cable modem and the cable company's default gateway. Finding your gateway and some of the other information depends on whether or not you have a firewall.

charlie

Sep 2, 2006 4:45 PM in response to Baby-Boomer-USofA

Hi Baby Boomer, thanks for the reply.

Sorry for the late reply, for I just got back from vacation.

SO, I went ahead and repaired permissions using the disk utility on my HD, and everything checked out fine.

I then restarted my computer and started up using my Original Start up disk,
which is a Mac OS version 10.4.2 insatall disk; not sure if that makes a difference. So, I repaired permissions using the disk utilty on the start up disk, and got many "corrections", if there would of have been a way to copy them to show you I would have, but I didnt know how, since I was on my start up disk.

I decided to Repair the disk since I was on the disk Utility already , and for the first time owning this computer, I got a "Volume Header needs minor repair" message. The utility continued working and then stated ,
"HFS Vol 1 Repaired" somehting like that in those words.

Well, and Im on back on my original disk, and looking to see if there was a change for the better and hoefully not the worse.

Also, Ive used the "Network Utility" according to aonther user that posted.
Regarding the packet loss, and sending a ping. Which I did, and all checks out fine, no packet loss, and the time for the packets recieved wrer very close with one and other in time differences there wasnt much.

Please let me know what you think.
Thanks

Sep 2, 2006 5:20 PM in response to poops

Ok so, i just updated the Istat widget , and repaired permissions as I always do after installing or updating a program. and I used the HD disk utility, and it repaired many things. I dont get it? I just finished repairing all those permissions using the startup disk's disk Utility.

But, Im assuming thats what happens when someone repairs permissions using their startup disk, which for me is a 10.4.2 disk, and repairing using their updated 10.4.7 OS HD disk Utility to rpeair permissions, RIGHT?

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