Easy to Use Graphical Software - where?

I very much need a graphical program that is easy to use.

It should be able to display the graphics in a folder in variable thumbnails,

allow me to edit those graphics for brightness, contrast, color, hue, etc,

allow me to select a graphic as a desktop background/wallpaper,

allow me to change size, format, depth as a batch (example: 100 gifs in a folder need to be changed from 480X480 pixels to 600X600 pixels and converted to jpgs AND all must be brightened by 10%)

allow me to copy or move graphics from one folder to another easily as it can be done in Windows (You know, tag the photos and drag them to another folder displayed in a left hand menu of directories/folders)

print

will display animations

will allow batch changes of creation date or current time

resize by pixel in horizontal or vertical position

flip or rotate by degree a full 360 degrees an either direction

and anything else it can throw into the pot.

So far I have purchased three (yes 3) Mac "Graphic" applications and each is limited and all have such a high learning curve that it will take months before I can do some serious work. And they weren't cheap.

Example:

GraphicConverter - this thing is so high tech I am unable to do any serious work without spending hours and sometimes days figuring out achieve how to do simple text insertion - a feat that can be accomplished with a defunct program called Embellish (for Windows) in ten seconds. The manual is half inch thick. The program is so extensive that a third party Mac User offers another thick pdf manual for several bucks.

Creating a text logo using GraphicConverter can be done after tedious tries but the finished result is always poor compared to the Windows application noted above.

I can't afford to spend umpteen dollars for something like PhotoShop (another monumental learning curve) and need to find something that is reasonably priced and will do basic to minor professional work.

Is there anything in the Mac world or anyone in the Mac world that can suggest something as I have described and tell me where to get it?

Thanks!

John

20" Intel iMac fully loaded (2Gig Ram, 500Gig Hard drive, 256Mg video) Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Aug 23, 2006 9:23 PM

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Aug 23, 2006 10:03 PM in response to Gnarlodious

Thanks Gnarlodious I do have Graphic Converter but I simply don't have a year of time to devote to learning something so difficult. It may be a 'snap' to you but to the laymen it is extremely complicated.

What I'm after is the ability to press a "text" icon, select a font, size, color, write my text, "apply" it to my graphic, position it where I want and paste it in permanently.

GraphicConverter, as far as I know, will not open a folder of graphics and display them as thumbnails so I can preview. It won't let me tag fifty of those thumbnails and change their size, creating date, convert from gif to jpg and brighten all by 10% in one quick swoop.

To be frank there isn't a lot of 'easy' with GraphicConverter. Everyday I try to spend some time with it but walk away as frustrated as I was the day before.

How about this - a simple QuickTime movie of individual features available in GraphicConverter. Sort of a "how to add text to a graphic step by step" two-minute video. Are there such things? If so, where can I find them?

I bought GraphicConverter ($30) because I needed to overlay a text logo on a quicktime movie. I was able to accomplish that (even tho' it took all afternoon to figure it out) but I had to turn to a Windows machine to make the text graphic because I couldn't figure out how to easily make an anti-aliased bit of text with GraphicConverter. Thus, I sent the text logo to myself, called it up in GraphicConverter and spent considerable time learning how to make the background transparent. In normal graphical circles it is called "transparent" but with GraphicsConverter it is called something else and I was totally lost for hours

All said and done I then had to re-render the QuickTime movie to add the logo on every frame. iMovie won't let me place a text logo in the lower right hand corner while the video is being edited and rendered and the method above was advised as the best way to do what I needed. Arghhhh!

I finally bought Final Cut Pro (Universal) for some $1200 bucks and wow - there is a learning curve! 🙂 And Final Cut allows you to insert a logo anywhere but you still have to make the graphical logo first! Again, arghhhh!

I bought AppleWorks because it has a Paint program which turns out to be quite limited. That was a $60 chunk of change. Appleworks doesn't come with the new Intel machines and now I find I don't really need it. Arghhhh!

I thank you for your assistance and response. It is very much appreciated.

John

20" Intel iMac fully loaded (2Gig Ram, 500Gig Hard drive, 256Mg video) Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Aug 23, 2006 10:30 PM in response to HudsonJohns

Hi

The reason you find Windows programs simple and Mac apps difficult is simply because you are used to the Windows stuff. If you have learned to do stuff the Windows way you now have to relearn to do it the Mac way: There is no other way. Your question says to me, "is there a Mac graphics app that is just like the Windows app I know?". Short answer is no. Some of the functions you are asking for are taken care of by the Finder and the system. For the others try Seashore.

Matthew Whiting

Aug 23, 2006 10:58 PM in response to HudsonJohns

What I'm after is the ability to press a "text" icon, select a font, size, color,
write my text, "apply" it to my graphic, position it where I want and paste
it in permanently.

That is exactly what you can do with GC. I assume you can see the Toolbox. If you do not see the Toolbox click the menubar "Windows" item, then "Show Toolbox".
Select the "A" toolbox item, which enables you to write text to an image. If you doubleclick the icon you can set font, size, styling, alignment, box width and antialiasing for the text. Save that window and it will stay that way until you change it.
Make sure your foreground color is set using the boxes at the bottom of the toolbox bar. Click the color box to select a color. Click your picture and a box appears. Type your text, while in the typing box you have no ability to use arrows to move the cursor, only backspace. I usually type the text in a document app and paste it, since it is easier that way. Use arrows to position your text box, or drag it. When you are finished, commit the text (rasterize it) by selecting the Selection tool. If you are satisfied, save the image. If not, undo the text using the cmd-z keystroke.

GraphicConverter, as far as I know, will not open a folder of
graphics and display them as thumbnails

There are 3 ways to do this:
1) Contextual menu. Select the folder in Finder, right-click and go down to "Graphic Converter", then select "Show in Browser".
2) Drag and drop the folder onto the GC icon in the dock.
3) With GC in front, click the "File" menu and scroll down to "Browse Recent Folder", then select a recently opeed folder. This is convenient after you have filled the "Recent Items" list.

For processing images in batch mode, editing EXIF tags and everything else you mentioned, I am too busy to explain it here. I strongly recommend you subscribe to the GC discussion group I mentioned earlier. I am there every day and will help you if nobody else does.


Mac OS X (10.4)

Aug 24, 2006 10:16 AM in response to matthew whiting

Actually I'm not coming from Windows but from OS/2 which is very much akin to OSX. The PMView and Embellish programs I reference are OS/2 native applications which have been ported over to Windows. I have two laptops, one with OS/2 and the other with Windows, and the applications work almost identically in either OS so I use whatever is handy.

It's true that many former Windows and other operating system users are moving to the Mac and they are used to doing things the MS or IBM or Linux way. In each of these operating systems the 'delete' key works just as that, a delete key. There is no need to hold down a "command" key to delete a tagged desktop icon and unless we know that a combination of keys is now required, we're left a bit frustrated and may come off as nimcompoops. I hope you will bear with us.

I took a look at Seashore and I am very impressed. It does look like a program I can use and utilize and a beta universal version is available for download. I will try it. The look and ease of it, including the vertical toolbar, appears more familiar than GraphicConverter.

Thank you Matthew for recommending it. I had not heard of it prior to my posting here.

I haven't quite got the jest of "Finder" yet and it appears to me as a 'file or folder manager' for OSX. Windows, of course, needs a file manager because it is a poor OS, whereas OS/2 does not as the entire OS is on big object oriented file manager. Give me another six months with OSX and I'll find these other OS functions I'm familiar with to be 'old hat'. 🙂

Thanks!

John

20" Intel iMac fully loaded (2Gig Ram, 500Gig Hard drive, 256Mg video) Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Aug 24, 2006 10:24 AM in response to HudsonJohns

In each of these operating systems the 'delete' key
works just as that, a delete key. There is no need
to hold down a "command" key to delete a tagged
desktop icon and unless we know that a combination
of keys is now required, we're left a bit frustrated
and may come off as nimcompoops. I hope you will
bear with us.


I understand this, to the point I traded the Apple Pro mouse for a Logitech 2 button (with a Dell logo on it, no less).

Point at the icon, right click, select move to trash from the contextual menu that appears. This also works if multiple icons are selected.

I haven't quite got the jest of "Finder" yet and it
appears to me as a 'file or folder manager' for OSX.

Aug 24, 2006 10:26 AM in response to Gnarlodious

What I'm after is the ability to press a "text"

icon, select a font, size, color,
write my text, "apply" it to my graphic, position

it where I want and paste
it in permanently.


That is exactly what you can do with GC. I assume you
can see the Toolbox. If you do not see the Toolbox
click the menubar "Windows" item, then "Show
Toolbox".


Select the "A" toolbox item, which enables you to
write text to an image. If you doubleclick the icon
you can set font, size, styling, alignment, box width
and antialiasing for the text. Save that window and
it will stay that way until you change it.


Make sure your foreground color is set using the
boxes at the bottom of the toolbox bar. Click the
color box to select a color. Click your picture and a
box appears. Type your text, while in the typing box
you have no ability to use arrows to move the cursor,
only backspace. I usually type the text in a document
app and paste it, since it is easier that way. Use
arrows to position your text box, or drag it. When
you are finished, commit the text (rasterize it) by
selecting the Selection tool. If you are satisfied,
save the image. If not, undo the text using the cmd-z
keystroke.


Most excellent information Gnarlodious! I have printed it out for easy reference. Nice of you to take the time to provide the instruct as many would simply dismiss my frustration.

GraphicConverter, as far as I know, will not open a

folder of
graphics and display them as thumbnails


There are 3 ways to do this:
1) Contextual menu. Select the folder in Finder,
right-click and go down to "Graphic Converter", then
select "Show in Browser".


Ohhhh good good...

2) Drag and drop the folder onto the GC icon in the
dock.
3) With GC in front, click the "File" menu and scroll
down to "Browse Recent Folder", then select a
recently opeed folder. This is convenient after you
have filled the "Recent Items" list.


Excellent! Printed and archived for future reference!

For processing images in batch mode, editing EXIF
tags and everything else you mentioned, I am too busy
to explain it here. I strongly recommend you
subscribe to the GC discussion group I mentioned
earlier. I am there every day and will help you if
nobody else does.


Thanks Gnarl, I am subscribed (since the day of purchase) and will look for you there. I *do want* to learn the intricacies and power of GC and appreciate the assist.

I have been using OSX since late April and am coming from the OS/2 operating system (now defunct) although I have used Windows when necessary or forced to do so. I am determined to make OSX work for me and with folks like you in the OSX community that is sure to happen!

John

P.S. I think I've posted three questions today and got them all answered! AND, I've learned some new tricks and tips. Most excellent!

Nov 19, 2006 2:18 AM in response to C Webber1

Hi

Apple bundled Graphic Converter X with certain Macs in certain locations and at certain times as part of a package. At other times and in other locations they may bundle other third party apps. On my last generation Powerbook, for example, here in Norway, I got Omnigraffle and OmniOutliner, which are two very good applications. I think I also got one or two other shareware apps.

The point is that there are several reasons for bundling third party apps with new Macs, but you have no reason to expect a certain third party app with a new Mac. You can always send Apple feedback requesting that they incorporate a certain piece of software in OS X, in which case they would need to buy the app outright from the developer.

Graphic Converter X is developed by Lemke Software, here:

http://www.lemkesoft.com/en/graphcon.htm

You might want to check what your licence for Graphic converter X entitles you two. You might be breaking the terms of the licence by using it on your new Mac, or you might be entitled to update to the latest Universal Binary of the application. You need to check for yourself, as I have no idea of the licence restrictions. If you need a new licence for the application, it costs only $30.

So, please check to see what your situation is and act accordingly.

Matthew Whiting

Nov 19, 2006 4:02 PM in response to HudsonJohns

Hi Hudson!

I just want to chime in by saying that GraphicConverter will do everything you want, and more. It is the easiest-to-use graphical software on the market, and fantastic value for money. I have used it for years, from OS 8.6 until today. Once you buy it you get free upgrades for ever. The latest version is in Universal Binary and will work perfectly with your computer, as it does on mine. It is worth paying a few dollars extra and also buying the Manual, but it is easy enough without it.

I also have Photoshop, but use it much less that GraphicConverter, because that I find very hard to learn!

Nov 20, 2006 12:24 PM in response to matthew whiting

Basically,
The Apple Giveth & The Apple Taketh Away

It's called "marketing agreements", & they do the same with their own software. Take iPhoto, for example... It was included in Panther, but not only did they take it away in Tiger, they rolled it into iLife as a for-purchase item AND those of us who had been using it for over a year didn't even get an upgrade path [the current updates don't work with the earlier version, either]. Granted, the iLife package is a very good value, but that isn't the point.

I've been putting up with Apple's shenanigans since day one, but I've never owned another brand & probably never will. It's a world of trade-offs... kinda like your dream date's snoring 😉

Regards |:>)
Bob J.

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