27 iMac (2012) crashes and requires smc reset to turn on

My late 2012 iMac, i7 16gig RAM 27 inches keeps shutting down. It looks like as if it was unplugged. Happens randomly. Sometimes while playing Diablo 3, surfing facebook or using iphotos or other apps. Seems to not crash if just left on overnight and not been used.


In order to turn it on again I have to unplug it from the power line for like 30 seconds, only then it starts.


I have the settings set to restart on power failure, but it does not.


Happened a few times a few months back. I have installed a surge protector and it worked fine for like a month or two. However last 2 days it has shut down like 10 times...


Help would be greatly appreciated. I suspect hardware failure.

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), iOS 7.1.1

Posted on May 5, 2014 9:44 PM

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Posted on Oct 26, 2017 3:46 AM

Hi there - hope I'm on the right thread for this reply.


I recently suffered the same issue for over a week whereby my late 2012, 27" iMac (1TB fusion drive) would unexpectedly shutdown like someone had yanked the power supply cable from the back. I could only get it restarted by removing the power lead for 15 secs, plugging back in and waiting 5 secs before starting up - and apart from a Chrome "unexpected shutdown" message, you wouldn't have known that it had shut off.


I spent a few hours on to Apple Support trying various solutions (Diagnostic test, MemTest, SMC/PRAM resets, Sierra reinstall etc).


By trial and error, I eventually identified the problem's source as being my Satechi 7 port USB 3.0 hub which had 2 x Porsche design (1TG and 4 TB) external HDD's attached, along with 2 x charge/sync docks for iPad and iPhone. Since I removed the USB Hub and plugged the peripherals into the back of the iMac, I have had no issues whatsoever - and my pride & joy is back working like a dream.


I hope this update helps

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Feb 11, 2017 8:15 AM in response to Beolion73

Hi Beolion73,


Did you only replaced the PSU (which brand?) or more parts?


Got he same problem with my iMac Late 2012. Have brought my Mac in September 2016 in service, but they didn't found any problem. After that, he worked for about a week or 5 without any problem. Then it started again. Last days it shuts down more times a day.


I also read posts within this tread, that the PSU was not the solution. I don't want to replace half an iMac with new parts which not resolve the problem.


I love Apple products, but I think the next Apple product I will buy at a Apple Reseller who offers 3 years standard warranty en sell it some months before the warranty ends.

Feb 11, 2017 1:43 PM in response to digimikeh

For me it came to a point where I just had too many shutdowns.

I replaced the Delta psu with the Liteon. Bought on eBay for 50 EUR. Plus I bought the parts from ifixit to take it apart.

And it is still working fine for me.

I am still sad to hear all the stories but I don't believe that Apple will ever recognise this particular fault.

Especially since the technicians are saying they never heard about this fault. Shocking.

Feb 27, 2017 2:28 AM in response to Beolion73

Hi all

Just an update, after around 2 months now with the new PSU I have not had a random shutdown, yet :-)

I have also tried to leave the iMac on for several days playing music which went fine, and I do not have to unplug the computer from the power outlet.

All in all, still going strong, crossing my fingers.

Last note, the screen seems a bit brighter than before, like others mentioned.

Mar 23, 2017 3:27 AM in response to Lagoiski

I had my PSU replaced back in May 2016 and since some weeks the shutdowns have re-appeared, exactly like they did the first time around November 2015. Once my iMac is turned on for too long (say a day, in sleep mode) and I work a few hours, it crashes. Unplugging for 10-15 minutes makes it come back to life again.


Unfortunately, I am out of Apple Care now, so I hope someone has any suggestion what can be my best next step. Is there in the meanwhile any update from Apple that this is a real issue impacting certain builds?

Mar 27, 2017 10:19 PM in response to JeD3s

My one-month old 27" Retina (Late 2015 model) is doing the hard shutdown thing, with an SMC reset required to start again. Clicking around in Safari will do it, 100% repeatable, just a question of whether it takes five hyperlinks or 50. No way to predict when, but it WILL happen. Does it on all user profiles, in Safe Mode, even on a clean install in a new disk partition. This jazz started a few days ago and is quite infuriating.


It's going back in to Apple tomorrow, after blowing much of the weekend doing tech support chats and going through the many attempted remedies.


Tom

Apr 5, 2017 2:30 PM in response to tewatson1

So after a week at Apple, nothing found. The store tech actually had a couple of interesting ideas that I had not explored. He said the SMC can act as a fuse if it senses irregularities through the power input or Ethernet port, and may shut it down as a protective action.


Trying a couple different things now, like a new surge suppressor (just in case, since it was several years old) and connecting through wireless instead of Ethernet. Thus far the problem has not recurred. If it works for a few weeks in this config, will try using Ethernet again to see what happens.


Tom

Jun 23, 2017 7:24 AM in response to Lagoiski

OK, so after Apple replaced the hard drive, which had apparently been fried, I reinstalled all of my software and documents. Thank god for Time Machine.


A few days later it all started again. Imagine my frustration. About four days of work lost, but at least I had my backup files.


Took it back to the Apple Store. They replaced the power supply and the logic board. Less than 24 hours later, so far, so good.

Jun 23, 2017 7:29 AM in response to macgroupie

Oh, one more thing. When I brought my machine back to the Apple Store, I told the Assistant Store Manager (we'll just call her "A"), that this was a known problem all over the Apple Discussion boards, and why had they not replaced the power supply in the first place, she said that the techs were not trained to keep up with "Social Media."


So, I guess Apple Discussions is "Social Media."


True story. Not fake news.

Jul 1, 2017 9:48 AM in response to Lagoiski

Just wanted to give an update as well. I installed the new LiteON PSU and have had no issues for the last 4 weeks. My iMac has been on the entire time and only gone to sleep when not in use. It seems that the problem was 100% the Delta PSU.


For those intimidated by replacing the PSU, it is not a difficult process and only takes about an hour. There are great videos by both OWC and iFixit. If you decide to replace the PSU I would also recommend replacing the HDD with a SSD too. The new SSD has made my 2012 iMac run like a brand new machine (probably even faster than some of the current HDD versions).

Jul 1, 2017 4:28 PM in response to Lagoiski

Like others on posts found all over by google searches I have this indiscriminate shutting down.

My iMac is a late 2012 A1419 27" i7 3.4MHz with 31GB ram and a 500Gb SSD and 3 TB Seagate HDD.

After trying all the usual tricks (resetting the SMC, PRAM, clean caches etc) I came to the conclusion, independently, that it was the power supply that was the cause of the issue. I am most reluctant to let so-called Apple techies touch the machine. They would just tell me what I already know ... "the ram is non-Apple, the SSD is non-Apple, the HDD is non-Apple" .. you get the picture.

I have ordered a LiteOn power supply from the UK which is a lot more expensive to ship to Australia than the books I purchase from the Book Depository.

I will replace the PSU and the broken hinge (another crappy Apple issue) and a faulty HDD data cable at the same time. These tapered edge iMacs are a bit easier to work on than the older thicker edge iMacs thankfully.

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