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Does any body use a pair of starkey halo ric 110

The bluetooth does not connect always easily.

Is there a trick?

iPhone 5c, iOS 7.1.1

Posted on May 29, 2014 6:26 AM

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Sep 19, 2014 6:03 PM in response to Cmjabo

Maybe we have a language problem. Once PAIRED, you are PAIRED. Now forget pairing, you've done that. I think you mean you can CONNECT only one at a time. That's different.


There are TWO types of connection: CONTROL and STREAMING. CONTROL will work from EITHER device. You CONTROL by using Triple-Click. You can do that from BOTH DEVICES AT THE SAME TIME.


The other connection is STREAMING. That uses a different channel, and you can STREAM from only one device at a time. I just posted this on the HearingAidForums.com blog, in response to another query:

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Aye. To pair two devices, turn Bluetooth OFF on one device, pair the other. You MIGHT have to use "Forget This Device" and start over to re-pair.

Then reverse the process. Turn off Bluetooth on the first device, then ON for the second. Again, you may have to use Forget This Device.

NOTE: I do NOT use Tru-Link. That app gave me troubles, so I am using ONLY THE TRIPLE CLICK method of control.

Once paired, you should have Bluetooth ON just one device when booting your aids in the morning. After that, you can turn Bluetooth ON for the other.


MY EXPERIENCE OVER TWO DAYS WITH iOS8:

1. You can STREAM from ONE DEVICE AT A TIME, ***BUT***

2. If you TRIPLE-CLICK BOTH DEVICES, you'll find that you can adjust preset memories and VOLUME FROM EITHER device. YES!!! I can move a slider on one device, and a second later, the aids RESPOND, then I see the sliders ON THE OTHER DEVICE WILL RESPOND. And I can use EITHER device.

3. I can be using the iPhone, then open up Tablo-TV on the iPad, and stream LIVE or RECORDED TV to my hearing aids FROM THE IPAD while still controlling the volume with the Triple-Click on the iPhone! It works perfectly.

4. Bluetooth audio so far APPEARS to be a little more robust than it was on iOS7.

Sep 20, 2014 7:22 AM in response to LanB22

From an email I received earlier today (from the local Starkey rep):


"

As previously communicated, we have confirmed compatibility with iOS 8 and Halo™ hearing aids.

With today’s release of iPhone® 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, we have embarked on rigorous testing for hardware related issues. Preliminary indicators are iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus should not be used. Connection between iPhone 6 and 6 Plus and hearing aids is not robust and users will experience frequent and inconsistent connectivity issues.

iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c and iPhone 5 remain compatible and are the recommended phone for Halo users. We strongly recommend patients do not update to iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus until the issue is resolved.

We will provide further updates to you in the coming days.

Sep 20, 2014 7:39 AM in response to frankeric

Sorry, folks. I was using my iPhone when I got the e-mail and posted. I didn't realize it wasn't going to come through clearly. Here's the text:


"As previously communicated, we have confirmed compatibility with iOS 8 and Halo™ hearing aids.


With today’s release of iPhone® 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, we have embarked on rigorous testing for hardware related issues. Preliminary indicators are iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus should not be used. Connection between iPhone 6 and 6 Plus and hearing aids is not robust and users will experience frequent and inconsistent connectivity issues.


iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c and iPhone 5 remain compatible and are the recommended phone for Halo users. We strongly recommend patients do not update to iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus until the issue is resolved.


We will provide further updates to you in the coming days."


For the record, I am having very good results with my iPhone 5S (32Gb) running iOS 8. As soon as my employer's IT department finishes vetting iOS 8, I will be able to test that on my iPhone 5C (32 Gb).

Sep 20, 2014 7:55 AM in response to frankeric

I'd like to get on that e-mail list too. I was able to read OldGnome's message by scrolling that window, one line at a time.


UPDATE:


I've been doing more experimenting, and discovered that THERE IS AN ISSUE with maintaining a CONSISTENT connection. THE ISSUE IS WITH AIRPLAY. You see, AIRPLAY is how you get the Bluetooth signal from a device to the hearing aids.


DO THIS: when streaming audio from say, the iPad, if you SWIPE UP from the bottom of the screen, you'll get the Control Centre screen where you can make choices like "Airplane Mode" , Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Start and stop your music, Camera or Timer. At the very BOTTOM CENTRE of Control Centre, you'll see "AirDrop" and hopefully "AirPlay". WHEN YOU ARE STREAMING TO YOUR HEARING AIDS, it will list them like "Jim Hearing Aids." THIS IS WHERE THE CONNECTION GETS FLAKY. I hope that Apple engineers are reading this list so that they can begin working on this issue. When it works, it works VERY WELL, but it is INCONSISTENT.


More on AirPlay: for it to work, all devices must be ON THE SAME Wi-Fi NETWORK. So AirPlay depends on Wi-Fi, and appears to be an amalgamation of Wi-Fi AND BlueTooth. This is just a guess on my part, but I'd say that the flakiness is when one or both signals (Wi-Fi a/o BlueTooth) is interrupted by congestion or packet collision.


APPLE? Are you listening?

Sep 20, 2014 10:48 AM in response to Cmjabo

UPDATE!!!


I can now EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING, and why it doesn't always work as well as other times.


For a while, I was perplexed at the interaction between BlueTooth, Wi-Fi and AirPlay. Here's what is happening:

1. Our hearing aids only talk BlueTooth. They can connect to ONE device (iPhone or iPad) at a time.

2. When we STREAM audio from A SECOND DEVICE, that device does NOT send the audio directly to our hearing aids. Rather, it uses AIRPLAY (over Wi-Fi) to ROUTE THAT AUDIO TO THE FIRST DEVICE, where the audio is RE-SENT to the hearing aids via BlueTooth. That Wi-Fi link MUST be on the same network.


So, to quote an old saying, "a chain is only as strong as its weakest LINK." If any one link fails, the chain breaks.


Suggestion to Apple: have a programmer write a socket for the use of AirPlay, which would attempt to open an AD-HOC channel (device to device) FIRST, with fall-back to the Wi-Fi network.


Unfortunately for Cmjabo, this may throw a monkey-wrench in his wedding plans, if there isn't a reliable Wi-Fi network to use at the wedding venue.


Jim

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