iBooks is using "Sort Name" and not "Name". How do I fix this?

I need help.

I have sorted through all my ebooks, changing them to epub, editing metadata to have correct title, author, and even series (title and order) using a program called Calibre.

When I sent these to my iTunes-iBooks it chooses to sort them by Sort Name (not the Name, but an entirely different field). I was able to mass delete Sort Artist, but not Sort Name. It is currently putting the series information in as Sort Name.

As you can reasonably understand, I want to KEEP the series information as part of the metadata, but not have iTunes sorted by this, as it makes it impossible to find books by the title or "Name" of the book.



Is there any way to force iTunes and iBooks to sort by Name only?

Is there a way to delete Sort Name information without losing Series information as a part of the data?



Additionally, I have close to 400 ebooks- I REALLY don't want to have to manually delete the Sort Name from each of these and honestly I'm afraid to lose the series data which took forever to input correctly.



Off-topic: Can we just mention how so much could be solved if iTunes didn't treat books as if they were tracks of a CD? It's an Author not an Artist, they could include handy fields for Series rather than putting it in Sort Name, etc. I love the compatability between all my devices, but iTunes really should beef up their love for readers.

Posted on Jun 11, 2014 9:27 AM

Reply
14 replies

Jun 11, 2014 10:02 AM in response to Shiningstar1292

Well the idea of the sort fields in general is that you use them to get fine grained control over the sort order rather than tweaking the main field to an incorrect value. iTunes has a built in mechanism for auto-sorting values that omits a leading article (a, an, or the) such that The Beatles will normally sort automatically under B. Given that mechanism exists there is usually no need to place anything in the sort field at all, but if it is there then manual edits to the main field won't change the sort order.


You should be able to clear the current values using my script ClearSortName. Test the behaviour on a small group first to make sure it does what you want. Rather than having empty values I use the Sort Name field to actively group and order series so, for example, my Jo Nesbø books are kept together, and in the correct order, but retain their original titles. And I use sort artist/album/composer(author) to place the authors in the correct order by surname.


User uploaded file


User uploaded file



tt2

Apr 14, 2016 11:28 AM in response to romad

Presumably it is the whole of the Name field since the app doesn't have separate fields for forenames and surnames. My books collection is organized in my main iTunes library in Windows where I have entered sort names for each of my authors. On my iPhone I've found that I can go to the bookshelf in grid mode and arrange things in any order that I want, then when I go to the list view they stay in the same order. There is a corresponding screen in iBooks that can be manually ordered, but I surprised to see the authors listed in the wrong order in a side column in the authors view.


tt2

Apr 14, 2016 11:36 AM in response to turingtest2

OK, so if I go into iTunes and copy the Sort Name field contents into the the Name field, the authors would be sorted by last name, correct? I know I can MANUALLY rearrange the books in iBooks on my iPad, but it is cumbersome due to: 1) I have almost 1,000 books and 2) on the next sync, iOS 9.3 mess them up again. Thus if I do the above, I can hopefully cut down on the amount of manual arranging.

Apr 14, 2016 1:05 PM in response to romad

Well, that did not work. I had 9 books who's author's last name was "White", 1 by James, and 8 by Steve. I changed the Name field to read White, (first name) and performed a sync. Initially all were removed from the iPad as I expected, but when the sync was finished only the book by Jame White appeared on the iPad but it DID appear down with the W first names between Walter and William. So it looks like iBooks is now dead for my use. I will probably migrate to eBookMobi. Of course I'll have to repurchase any titles I previously purchased in the iBooks Store as I can't convert them to normal ePubs.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

iBooks is using "Sort Name" and not "Name". How do I fix this?

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.