Connecting iPod to Honda Music Link

I need help! I have a 5th Gen iPod, and also I have a Honda Music Link, connected to a Honda Accord. I recently updated th e iPod software from 1.1.2, to version 1.2 (the newest version). Guess what, my iPod is now not recognized by my car audio system. It only shows a blinking "CD-01" all the time, and I can't manage my iPod with the car system controls as I could before I did the upgrade. I tried to restore the iPod and loaded the TTS entries again, but no luck.

Does anyone uses this and has the same problem as I have? What can I do to resolve the problem? Please help, I really hate my iTrip!!

Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) iPod 5th Generation

Posted on Sep 14, 2006 7:40 PM

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Oct 5, 2006 9:35 PM in response to jeffk101

I was checking this thread a few days ago because I was having trouble with my Honda Music Link and 5G Video iPod. But no one was describing the symptoms that I was seeing -- mainly that when I would play an album or an artist, I would only get one song in an endless loop.

Other than that, everything else seemed OK. The iPod is recognised and the voice prompts seem to work -- although it is a funky interface and you need to be quick with the button pushing.

The HML was installed this last Tuesday in my new Ridgeline. The TTS software is version 1.2. The iPod is running the latest update, iTunes is the latest version and MacOS X is version 10.4.8 (just updated the OS this week prior to installing the TTS software.) I don't remember seeing a posting where someone was having this trouble with version 10.4.8 -- but I could be wrong.

On further checking it seems that it is only some of the albums and artists that play only one song. So I suspect that something in the way the tracks are labled is causing the TTS software to get confused as it creates its index files...

G5 Quad Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Oct 10, 2006 2:23 AM in response to Chepo

All of you babies need to quit whining. I have an '05 RL which I was initially told was not compatible with Musiclink. I bought it and installed myself, worked like a charm. Once I went to Ipod v1.2 I experienced the skipping someone previously described, it only happened 1 out of 5 times I pressed the track forward or backward button, or upon turning the radio on. It would skip from 10-30 seconds and stop (really annoying). You do not need to uninstall iTunes 7.0 to fix. ALL you have to do is find the Ipod Software Updater folder in your Applications folder and double click the one dated 6-28 (with your ipod connected to your computer of course). It will format your ipod, you will have to sync everything back which can take a while, but that's it. The only downside I've noticed is you don't see the big letter indicating where you are in a list when scrolling, and you cannot have videos with greater resolution than 240x320 (the new version supports apples new VGA downloads). I honestly wouldn't wait for apple or honda(acura) to create a fix as it may be a long time coming. The only people that are really screwed would be those who buy the 2nd release of the 5th gen ipods, because you probably can't install v1.1.2. So again people, take a deep breath, relax. Realize you're in an early adopter segment and that the majority of the people, including those at apple and honda have no clue what you're talking about. It su cks, do what you can (restore to version v1.1.2) and keep on truckin'.

17" PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8) 30g Ipod Video

Oct 10, 2006 2:16 PM in response to Chepo

Various things can make the adaptor have problems:
- iTunes changes (which can affect what the TTS indexes)
- Changes in iPod behavior (which can affect the adaptor operation)
- Actual iPod problems/bugs

It's generally not possible to implement fixes TOO quickly. It takes some time for analysis, some bugs do not duplicate, and there are various layers of bureaucracy to get fixes distributed.

One piece of advice: REPORT YOUR PROBLEM to Honda/Acura!
Even if they don't have a solution. Even if you think it's useless. Otherwise, there is no official record that there is even a problem, and no problem cases to investigate, and nothing will happen ever. Give them complete information: vehicle, iPod type & serial #, firmware version, etc. Even the small 4 digit code on the front of the radio (which indicates the manufacturer).

Apple DOES test new firmware with adaptors in the market. But there will always be problems which don't occur during that testing but do happen in the field.

Sad note: the old Updaters no longer seem to work. So much for that workaround.

iMac; ThinkPad Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Oct 10, 2006 3:12 PM in response to Chepo

One more thing: when y'all see the D-0x flashing, what does the iPod itself show? Do you see the check mark? Does it show play, or pause, or blank in the upper left corner? Is it charging?

And dc20, I'm not sure I understand your post "Basically you need to get a copy of the 6-28-2006 updater and run it on your iPod while connected to a machine that is not running iTunes 7. You can't go back after you update to 1.2 with iTunes 7. "
- The point is if a 5G isn't working with 1.2, to backflash it to the previous firmware. I think you're saying that won't work?
- Or maybe it will work with a brand new 5G which has never been updated?

Oct 10, 2006 3:19 PM in response to Chepo

One more thing: when y'all see the D-0x flashing, what does the iPod itself show? Do you see the check mark? Does it show play, or pause, or blank in the upper left corner? Is it charging?

And dc20, I'm not sure I understand your post "Basically you need to get a copy of the 6-28-2006 updater and run it on your iPod while connected to a machine that is not running iTunes 7. You can't go back after you update to 1.2 with iTunes 7. "
- The point is if a 5G isn't working with 1.2, to backflash it to the previous firmware. I think you're saying that won't work?
- Or maybe it will work with a brand new 5G which has never been updated?

Oct 10, 2006 9:36 PM in response to head_unit

Head Unit,

What I'm saying is that after using iTunes 7 to update the firmware to 1.2, it will not let you run a previous updater to go back to a previous version. At least it wouldn't let me.

As a workaround, I connected my iPod to my sister's PC, which is still running iTunes 6.0.5. I had a copy of the 6-28-2006 updater on a thumb drive, which I then ran on her machine to restore my iPod to that version (1.1.2) of the iPod firmware.

I used my user account login on her machine, and under my login, the iTunes library is completely empty. So I ended up with an empty iPod running firmware 1.1.2, which I then took home to my computer, docked it, and re-loaded all the music that is in my iTunes 7 library. It asked if I wanted to update my firmware, to which I said, "no thank you," and now I have an iPod running firmware 1.1.2, with all of my music, and iTunes 7.0 on my PC.

The result is that now my iPod works with my Honda Music Link again. When it did not (firmware 1.2), I saw the check mark and "OK to disconnect" message on the iPod while I had a flashing D-06 on my stereo. I could not tell if it was charging or not.

Oct 19, 2006 7:45 AM in response to dc20

No new postings since the 10th, so I guess I'm the only one disgusted at not hearing anything from either Honda (whose device isn't working) or Apple (whose change KO'ed Honda's device). Since all my machines are current, I am either faced with an extensive rebuild of my iTunes and iPod to an earlier version or simply burning an MP3 CD with my most played songs on it for my 2007 Fit Sport. Being lazy, that's what I did, and that's it. It would be really nice to know if someone, somewhere is actually working on this problem.

Oct 19, 2006 5:58 PM in response to jonickbob3

Yes, it is actually being worked on. But only a very few people seem to have this problem, and it does not reproduce in the lab at all.

Anyone who is having this problem, please:
- Call Acura/Honda
- Post your case number here
- Tell us where you live, maybe we'll visit.
- Note if you are using the TTS software. (If so, try deleting ALL the TTS files and playlists from the iPod. One fellow says loading TTS playlists hangs his setup. I very much doubt it is actually the TTS hanging it, but there may be some characteristic of the files which cause a problem).
- Note if the iPod shows a check mark
- Note if iPod is charging or not
- Note if iPod shows play, pause, or blank

Is this happening to anyone BESIDES with a 5G/firmware 1.2?

The flashing D-0x means "disc is loading" and in this case, the iPod does not seem to start playback OR the interface does not hand this information to the radio.

The only workaround at the moment seems to be to uninstall iTunes 7.0.1, load an older iTunes, and THEN run the old updater.

Personally, I'd also urge y'all to send feedback to Apple that they need to have a method to allow users to back up one firmware version.

Oct 22, 2006 6:00 PM in response to head_unit

Head Unit:

Call whom...I've contacted customer relations at (800) 999-1009. they have no idea what I'm talking about and refer me to my dealer.

The dealers I've been to (Barber Honda in Bakersfield and Power Honda in Valencia) have no idea what is going on.

I have no case number...no one at Honda seems to know anything about this.

I live in Frazier Park...stop by anytime.

I have the same problem with or without TTS.

the ipod shows the checkmark and charges just fine.

this is definitely firmware 1.2 related...I have rolled back to 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

btw 1.1.2 works just fine with itunes 7, but I would still like to upgrade firmware.

thanks

Oct 23, 2006 10:38 AM in response to Richard Cueto

I purchased a 2007 Honda Accord and a new 80 gig iPod to work with the music Link one week ago and found out quickly that the system doesn't work. After reading this thread, I talked with the car salesperson and several others at the dealership without anyone having any knowledge of the problem. But just this morning I was called by the dealership to tell me that Honda has suspended sales of the Music Link until they update the software to be compatible with iTunes 7.1. I dont think Music Link and the TTS system is going to be very good but hopefully it will at least work as described. They gave no time frame for the update.

Oct 23, 2006 12:04 PM in response to head_unit

Okay, When installed, my music link gave me a check mark and said it was charging, but failed to play any songs. At the time, my music library (3500+ songs) was on my ipod. Other ipods and my wife's mini (old firmware) work fine. Tried the music link softeware, but the process never finishes. Same results. I am in dallas, TX and my Honda case number is N012006-09-2800215, and we'll put some steaks on the BarBee should you visit.

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