How do I get MY iTunes back from the cloud

JLE499 wrote:

I just got 3 new mp3 songs and added them to my iTunes library after I purchased an album and 5 or so other songs off iTunes.. I want to take them to where I get a massage and there is no WiFi.. Guess what? They are now ALL ON THE ICLOUD!!! And now I have to find out what to do to put them where I want them. Also, I noticed that I back up to the Cloud AND all my stuff it also loaded up to the could so it can be shared. Thus duplicating the space I need which quickly requires buy in more space. I guess that is the idea. Starting to switch all my storage to google. Much cheaper and they don't double charge so far. Just after switching to the apple platform after years of being a PC. I am disgusted.

What do you mean, they are all "ON THE ICLOUD". You got three new songs and added them to your iTunes Library where? On your computer?

Are you using Apple Music?

If not, then please explain where you want to "put them" and what is preventing you from doing that?

Also, your stuff doesn't get "loaded up to the cloud" so it can be shared. If you mean you are using Family Sharing and you have an Apple Music Family Sharing Plan, then that music is stored in your iCloud Music Library. It is not also backed up. No purchases are backed up. There is nothing duplicated in iCloud, and your storage is not being used to hold the same data in multiple places.

If you are using Apple Music, then you need to educate yourself on the nature of the service. It is a streaming service. That means that everything is stored in your iCloud Music Library until you specifically create a playlist that is downloaded to your device. If you don't like that process, then don't use Apple Music and go back to the syncing with iTunes method:

Join Apple Music on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, Mac, or PC - Apple Support

Access your music collection on all of your devices with Apple Music - Apple Support

Add music from the Apple Music catalog to your library - Apple Support

GB

My plan is to download all my music from the cloud again onto my MacBook. Then I am going to disable the iCloud settings on my MacBook and end my affiliation with Apple Music. It's more trouble than it's worth. I'll just go back to looking for new music and buying what I like.

roosmari wrote:

Basically, I think Apple should give you the option of keeping the music downloaded on your computer and simultaneously putting it in iCloud. That way you can play your own music even if you are not connected to wi-fi.

You can download any of the Apple Music Store music so that you can listen to it offline:

Add and download music, shows, and movies from the Apple Music catalog - Apple Support

Access your music collection on all of your devices with Apple Music - Apple Support

Cheers,

GB

Dear friend,

iCloud is mainly meant for backup of the essentials like address book, app settings, etc. If you disconnect the pictures and music you will only need less than 1GB max! Apple usually promotes to backup all your pictures and music to iCloud. That may be because they get paid by customers. The best thing you can do is to have a master device such as a Mac/PC and install iTunes. You can connect your iPhone to that master device via cable and backup all your pictures and music and all data hogging items!

roosmari wrote:

My plan is to download all my music from the cloud again onto my MacBook. Then I am going to disable the iCloud settings on my MacBook and end my affiliation with Apple Music. It's more trouble than it's worth. I'll just go back to looking for new music and buying what I like.

So, you mean you are going to turn off iCloud Music Library in your iTunes Preferences? Because your iCloud Settings have nothing to do with Apple Music. I don't think you want to sacrifice all of your iCloud functionality just because you don't want to use Apple Music anymore.

Cheers,

GB

If I pay for a song/album and I download said song/album to my device, it is physically there, one my device, and the seller of said song/album then moves it onto their "cloud" then I have lost access to that song/album without having a network connection. You call it what you want, but my data was stolen from me and moved to a place I could no longer access it for no good reason and without my knowledge or consent. I do not barge into your kitchen and take your silverware, relocate it to the silverware cloud and not tell you, or a sky your permission, that's theft. All my LED Zeppilin, Rolling Stones and numerous others were on that device for years and yesterday, they weren't.

When they abandoned the iPod classic platform, I knew there was fundamental shift away from what made Apple, Apple. There is a whole industry built around accommodating the iPod as a entertainment source, your car, your boat, docking stations from home, music servers... Jobs started a revolution around taking your whole library where ever you go. Job dies, next thing you know, they kill the iPod, then they slave you to the stupid cloud. What if I can't (or don't want to) access to cloud. This whole "Internet of Everything" is starting to creep me out.

I just got 3 new mp3 songs and added them to my iTunes library after I purchased an album and 5 or so other songs off iTunes.. I want to take them to where I get a massage and there is no WiFi.. Guess what? They are now ALL ON THE ICLOUD!!! And now I have to find out what to do to put them where I want them. Also, I noticed that I back up to the Cloud AND all my stuff it also loaded up to the could so it can be shared. Thus duplicating the space I need which quickly requires buy in more space. I guess that is the idea. Starting to switch all my storage to google. Much cheaper and they don't double charge so far. Just after switching to the apple platform after years of being a PC. I am disgusted.

So now you have to go through thousands of songs and press the little could button to get in on the device?

Way to make live easier Apple. The power of a a computer that used to take up a building in the palm of our hands and it is still like punching a card reader..... Or is it I am missing some user friendly, intuitive, but visually unobtrusive hidden feature?

Oh this is another great one. If you purchase a tune from the store and then add it to an existing dumb playlist (no the smart one) a dialog box comes up and says it will add a copy to your computer. *** does that mean? If you are away from WiFi you are just out of luck unless you added it to a play list? Soo many tricky things? I like to use genius playlists so I can search on the comments field meaning..yet another thing to figure out. is it in the cloud or on the computer. Do I need to highlight and put them all in a dummy playlist first to make sure they are on my computer? All this power and it soaks up time just to get some songs of a certain kind and in a certain order on a device you can take with you where there is no WiFI. It is a major ordeal. It could be awesome if someone know how to use the vast power and realestate on an LCD screen. Whew!

I get that. Thank you for the reply. I have it all figured out now. Basically, because of wanting to have my Apple Music on all my devices, I went for the loading of my music onto iCloud. What I did not realize, was that the music currently on my MacBook, would essentially "Move" to the cloud and that I would have to re-download it if I wanted it on my MacBook. My communication was not clear. In addition to that, as a separate issue, I am finding it frustrating that I only "have my" Apple Music Library additions as long as I can essentially stream it through Apple Music. I am a bit old-school in that regard and want to "own" my music. It could be a generational issue lol I come from the CD era.

Basically, I think Apple should give you the option of keeping the music downloaded on your computer and simultaneously putting it in iCloud. That way you can play your own music even if you are not connected to wi-fi.

Are the tracks that now show as being in the cloud still physically located on your computer? If so, and if they became cloudy following an iTunes update, then see Empty/corrupt iTunes library after upgrade/crash.

tt2

Did it happen on your computer or your device? I've had my iPhone freeze, reboot and show no music. Just at the start of a long car journey. I wasn't pleased, but I don't ascribe any malice. Stuff happens. If it happened on your computer any crash has the potential to do same if iTunes is active. AV software has also been known to interfere with the way iTunes saves its database. A solid backup of the library means the database and or the media can be quickly and easily restored.

tt2

As above, try Empty/corrupt iTunes library after upgrade/crash, or give us some more details. Your library going cloudy is typically the sign of a corrupted database, which is usually fairly easy to fix. Backups protect you from more serious issues.

tt2

Oops, and to go back to old school "sync" where I choose what I want to sync. More control that way.