home sharing problems since Apple TV update

Hello everyone;

I have a Apple TV 2, an iPhone 4S, an iPad 2 and a Macbook pro 17" on the same iCloud account. Syncing of data between the computer and two iOS devices has been rock solid. Kudos on this system architecture, it is exactly what I have come to expect from Apple.

I recently purchased the Apple TV2 - but am now past the warranty period - to stream music and videos to the stereo from my Macs, either the iPad or computer mostly. It has been an excellent digital sound source, since most of my music is encoded full quality.

For the past two years the performance of this system has been flawless. I have the Remote app for my iPad, which is an awesome way to control an Apple TV for music playing, since you can build the 'Up Next' menu really easily, and having the iPad keyboard for inputting passwords and search items in the youtube browser is very handy.

About three months ago my Apple TV requested an update. When it was done my home sharing network was not working, would drop out, would shut off suddenly and disconnect my devices. I searched the forums and all I could find was the suggestion to make sure iTunes and both iOS devices had the latest updates. Sounded a bit cliche, but reasonable, so that was done. Still no joy with the network. Could not get it to connect.

Found another link that recommended updating the firmware on the modem. Tried that, and voila, the home sharing was back. Didn't last though, the next time my Apple TV went to sleep, it was gone again. I realized the modem rebooting may have been what did it, so I tried it again, and voila, the home sharing was back… and stopped again after a while.

Now I have to reboot the router every time I want to connect and it doesn't last. This is a pain in the arse that disrupts everyone on it, and is flatly incompetence on the part of Apple to release an update that screws up the main reason anyone would buy their product. The Apple TV is half a device without streaming. It should be said that Netflix and the internet are perfect on the Apple TV throughout this whole ordeal, so obviously there's no problem with the internet, the wireless, or the hardware. It plays music and video perfectly through whatever source is available. It just won't home share with the rest of my stuff. Literally wile I typed this my iPad just lost its connection to the Apple TV while the remote app was shuffling my music in the background.

So this is my rant. I've been a happy Apple consumer and advocate since my first Powerbook 140 bought in 1991. It's been great to watch the evolution of this company, and I'm always impressed with the user experience they provide, until now. Purchasing an Apple TV was a no-brainer for me, since everything else was seamless, and originally that's exactly what it was until this update ruined it.

I tried to contact Apple for help, or to find a tech note that would lead me to the solution, and was told I'd have to pay for the call. They did this, not me, so why do I have to pay them to fix their mistake? Does a company have the right to ruin a product you've already purchased, then ask for money to help you fix it? That is a strange business practice.

If there's something I need to configure or reset, so be it, but where can someone find that out? Literally in 10 minutes of what should be an innocuous update, I have lost my music box through no fault or mistake of my own.

If there is someone from the Apple tech support community or genius bar on this forum I invite you to support your product and let me know if there's a solution to the problem Apple created. They've made their own product look like crap. This is very un-mac.

speakerman65

MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.7.5), latest iOS on both devices

Posted on Aug 16, 2014 9:35 PM

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Aug 22, 2014 9:33 PM in response to chuck_3rd

Hello alex_h1;

Thanks for trying. I found these documents before, and have done everything in them. Same result, connects only after a router reboot, drops out after a short while. Of course I bought a Mac so I didn't have to mess around with ports, that's the point. You're not supposed to have to be tech savvy to use one, it's the best part of their user interface.

The Apple TV still streams Netflix as long as I want, no network issues, no dropouts. My iCloud account just doesn't work for home sharing.

I'm going to try to create a new iCloud account in case mine has something wrong with it, if that's even possible.

So far this has been a big waste of my time and source of frustration.

Hope you never go through this alex_h1.


Anyone from Apple feel like weighing in here and providing a solution?

Your update destroyed my home sharing network, but at least now I have wonderful new video and music marketing icons on the apple TV homepage instead. Is that your plan, to crash my ability to share my own music so I'll buy songs online in frustration?

How likely do you think it is I'll buy anything from you again?

Aug 22, 2014 9:42 PM in response to speakerman65

Oh, and one addendum, every so often my airplay icon will appear in iTunes, and I can play my music through it. So evidently my computer and Apple TV can see each other just fine...

Apple, you appear to have hamstrung Home Sharing by making it dependant on the internet. Not sure if you understand the definition of "home", but if my devices can see each other in my "home" then the internet should have nothing to do with whether or not they can share.

Aug 23, 2014 7:37 PM in response to chuck_3rd

I have the exact same problem as the OP and I cannot get my Apple TV and my PC to see each other anymore, since itunes 11.3.1 came out. Other than reviewing the same docs everyone and their mother post as a referral, because I have already reviewed them and done all the troubleshooting steps in between, help wioth some factual troubleshooting?


Its really frustrating that 2 weeks ago I was able to use home sharing to watch my recorded tv shows and this week I cannot connect my home share to my pc, regardless what do I do to try and fix it.


In my apple tv homeshare is turned on to the same email I have on my PC, yet they dont see each other.

Sep 1, 2014 2:53 PM in response to Tribal Plague

Same problem on the same timeline as above. Seems to have started around the same time 11.3.1 came out. Home Sharing started working briefly, then another iTunes update came out, updated, and Home Sharing is no longer working between my Computer (WIndows7) and any of my 5 iOS devices (iPad, iPhone, AppleTV). It truly is frustrating as I used this service heavily. Whatever your doing Apple, please fix or at least post the reasons why.

Sep 8, 2014 10:49 PM in response to MagicMarco

Hey MagicMarco and Tribal Plague, thanks for chiming in. I am still having this frustrating problem as of September 8th - just cut me off again in the middle of a song for no reason I could see. Went on Netflix immediately after to see if it was a network problem, and nope, instant connection.


Bit more information on trying a new iCould account in case that was the problem: turns out you can't just delete your account or move to another one, or it threatens to delete all your shared data for that account. This is unthinkable, I would lose all the critical items I have purposefully clouded to protect them. It DID NOT give me an option to migrate them to a new account, just said all items will be deleted.

I'm going to dig into this some more, as losing all the critical notes and calendar items would be a huge step backwards for me. There must be a way to protect your iCloud data with a local copy, so I'll post what I find out here.


Hopefully we'll hear back from a moderator of some kind. "Alex H." initially posted the links to tech notes I'd already seen - as if that would fix the problem. Since that banal attempt to lump me into the "your too stupid to set your iCloud up properly" camp, there's been no more from that quarter.

We are not too stupid to set the accounts up, Alex H. Mine worked great for two years before this upgrade screwed them up.

Does anyone from Apple have anything useful to say? Feel free to weigh in anytime with an original thought.

Sep 25, 2014 7:50 PM in response to speakerman65

I just had my almost brand new Apple TV, which had been working fine with Home Sharing over the three weeks or so that I have had it, suddenly stop seeing any of my Home Sharing computers over the network. I tried everything in the documents listed in this thread, rebooted the Macs, the Apple TV, the router, etc. Nothing worked ... the Macs could see each other fine through Home Sharing, but the Apple TV suddenly couldn't see anything,


I finally did get Home Sharing to the Apple TV working again ... by using the Apple TV's "Reset All Settings" option and basically setting the unit up again from scratch. It didn't make me happy to have to discard all of my setup information and start over, but at least it got the Apple TV to start seeing Home Sharing again. But if the same thing happens again after another week or two, I am not going to be a happy camper.

Nov 6, 2014 9:39 PM in response to Mysticfm

Hello Mysticfm;

Unfortunately through several updates for iTunes and one for the Apple TV, which are all now up to date according to Apple, I have the exact same frustrating problem. I have also done a full reset to my Apple TV, twice, and each time it worked for a while, but it didn't last. Hope you have a better experience.


Just had a rather interesting coordinated event, if it helps you Apple lurkers to figure out what you're doing wrong. Had my music playing and everything was fine. Went to my phone to download a piece of mail and retrieve an electronic boarding pass, and the instant I launched the mail program on my phone, the music died. Until that exact moment, it was playing properly. After that moment, my iTunes library had once again disappeared from the Apple TV.

Perhaps you've made a conflict?

People of Apple who read these forums, are you paying attention? Some die-hard long term Apple customers are about to leave the fold.

Where is the acknowledgement of the issues you've created? Forums are bursting with complaints of this type.

If you actually acknowledged you've made the problem I'd be happy to help you fix it.

If you won't own up and fix it I can't believe how far you have slipped in the user experience category.

speakerman65.

Nov 12, 2014 5:51 PM in response to speakerman65

Glad to know I am not alone in this. Apple TV was working fine last week with Yosemite installed, and this past Monday it stopped seeing my iMac. As I was having some trouble with my WiFi I tried to fix it with this http://osxdaily.com/2014/10/25/fix-wi-fi-problems-os-x-yosemite/. I'm not sure if after this, Apple TV stopped connecting to Home Sharing, although it seems likely. Stupid me, I deleted the original files mentioned in the article and cannot compare if this would fix it.

I have no problem connecting to Netflix, or getting my iPad/iPhone to see my shared library on iTunes, it's just AppleTV who tries to connect to iTunes then goes back to the main screen and then, if I try to access my computer, tells me it can't connect or I must turn home sharing on on my Mac (which I have turned off and on again).

I also have tried resetting, restarting both AppleTV and my Router to no avail. I have tried to fix permissions on my iMac and all my incoming connections from iTunes are open. It just won't connect. And, I have also been having some trouble getting AirPlay to work.

I hope someone finds a fix for this, although I'm afraid that after the last AppleTV 2 update they may be no more. 😕

Nov 19, 2014 3:45 PM in response to Macbatgirl

Not sure if this is your problem but, after updating my Mac Mini to 10.10.1 (iTunes 12.0.1.26) and updating my 3 Apple TV's to 7.0.2 my Home Sharing stop working. My Apple TV's were seeing my Mac Mini but clicking the Computer icon would return "Unable to connect to Mac Mini library". I checked all my Home Sharing settings and restarted all devices several times.


I was about to give up, then I notice on the iTunes header bar next to the search option it said "Log in". This logged me into the iTunes store and everything magically started working. During the update process I got logged out of the iTunes store.


Hope this helps someone.

Nov 20, 2014 5:28 AM in response to jschacker

I can't update to 7.0.2 because mine is a Apple TV 2.

I tried logging in and out of home sharing and the store and it still isn't working. Changed networks and it's not connecting to home sharing. It takes a while for my iPhone running 8.1.1. to turn on AirPlay on so that I can stream to AppleTV, after that it works fine. I also have noticed that while streaming YouTube from my iPhone to AppleTV through AirPlay always stops after a while and it sends me back to the main screen, and while using Vevo, the video stops and I'm back to the playlist, although this could be a Vevo issue. I hope they update 6.2.1. soon, I can't afford to buy a new AppleTV 😠


Thanks for your help 🙂

Nov 26, 2014 9:54 PM in response to speakerman65

I just want to chime in and say that I'm experiencing this same problem. I've tried all of the suggested things to do and nothing works. I even tried changing the wi-fi network on both my iMac and AppleTV and it did not make a difference. I also tried changing the AppleID used to connect to home sharing to a different Apple ID. All to no avail. I have several computers on my local network so I tried turning on Home Sharing from two different computers using the same Apple ID. The AppleTV worked just fine with the iTunes libraries of the two other computers. It just doesn't work for my iMac where I've been hosting my library and using AppleTV for years. Also, all my other devices can see the iMac library just fine (Only my two Apple TVs cannot see it).


This is very frustrating. Apple, please acknowledge this problem. I've always been able to tell my friends that AppleTV is the best streaming device.

Nov 29, 2014 12:05 PM in response to speakerman65

I had variations of all the issues described after my firmware update to Apple TV software 7.0.2(6915) And all my iOS devices to 8.0.2. Had Home Sharing turned on on all devices and Apple TV. Initially AirPlay icon disappeared completely from Control Center but mysteriously appeared overnight. Prior to that I tried all standard Apple Support advice I can find including resetting my Apple TV which was really frustrating especially when it did not solve the issue. Even after AirPlay icon appeared this morning, I am not able to AirPlay my home screen from Control Center - every time I select AirPlay and turned on Mirroring, it reverted back to my iPhone. Even Remote App did not work though Home Sharing was turned on.


Then I tired this out of the blues - went to my iPhone 6 Photo Stream and selected a video clip I took and then flip up Control Center and then tried AirPlay and mirroring again to Apple TV and then everything started to work! All my other devices started working again as well. Remote App is able to connect and pair with AppleTV. Seems like Apple TV needed a jolt after firmware upgrade from some media app like Photo Stream. Very strange.


Hope this helps others on this thread. Most important of all, if there are any Apple support personals or engineers reading this, I hope this might help in troubleshooting this annoying bug and provide an important fix.


Don't mean to vent but I am a long time Apple fan since Mac Classic days and pretty much have everything Apple from computers, tablets, phones, to AirPort Extreme. I have always been bragging to my friends and family on how seamless and trouble free Apple products are but you can imagine how embarass I was when I had friends over for Thanksgiving and I was touting Apple TV/AirPlay until this happened under my very nose. This gave some an opportunity to brag about the competition. Apple please do us proud again - we still want to brag about you.

Nov 30, 2014 7:54 PM in response to eph518

Same problem here with my Apple TV 2. I just bought a brand new Apple TV 3 to see if it would still drop Home Sharing randomly 5 minutes into streaming and sure enough it did the same thing. iTunes stays open and running with my PC still awake but Home Sharing drops. At the same time, Netflix and internet streaming and apps work fine. Every time this happens I have to get up and close iTunes and reopen iTunes and the library pops right back up on my Apple TV. And if I wake the Apple TV from sleep, my library will not be there unless I go to my laptop, close and reopen itunes. Was never a problem until an Apple TV update previously this year. Such a shame. Tried all sorts of network settings from the article. Tried keeping Apple TV from sleeping - worked for a while then stopped working. Tried Ethernet versus wifi Shame. Tried different router channels, firewall etc. Was a great product for the first year I had it. I'm going to go return the Apple TV 3.

Dec 27, 2014 5:32 AM in response to speakerman65

slightly different problem here

my apple tv 2 sees my home network ,and all files

but

i car'nt play back anything ,nothing music ,films tv shows

ive tried everything i can think off ,searched the forums ,asked advice nothing

originally thought it was itunes like a lot of people seem to think ,but last night tried something differant to make me think its not itunes

i borrowed my friends apple tv 3 plugged it in ,works straight away no problems ,tried my apple tv 2 same problem again nothing

back to apple tv 3 ,works great no problems

today borrowed an apple tv 2 ,works great no problems

swopped back to my original apple tv ,no joy nothing sees the home network and all files just will not play them

now my thoughts are it must be something specific to my apple tv and not itunes ,but i havent knowingly changed anything ,one day it worked next day i didn't

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