When I delete a iMessage from a conversation, does it get deleted from the recipients screen as well ?
When I delete a iMessage from a conversation, does it get deleted from the recipients screen as well ?
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When I delete a iMessage from a conversation, does it get deleted from the recipients screen as well ?
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That’s only because your exchange system is configured to allow that. It is an optional setting, not a standard or mandatory one. My employers system does not allow us to even enable read receipts, and recalls are also universally disallowed, both for internal and external mail.
I’m not confused at all. I‘ve administrated exchange servers before - those settings are all configurable, not fixed or standardized. If your employer wished to, they could disable your ability to recall any mail, sent to anyone, anywhere. A default exchange server install has read receipts and recalls universally disabled. If someone wishes those features, they need to be enabled by the exchange server admin.
You can't unmail a letter at the post, same principle here. Think twice, check recipient, reread or bite your lips! Possibly by hacking, like setting fire to the post box, or try to bribe the mail man. Ask the Russian fss., Or your now Nsa college roommate.
No, each device has a local copy of the message that stays until it is deletes from that device.
Hello,
I think Apple should modify that…
We all have to be responsible for what we say, and what we think.
But, come on.. Even their phones misspell words and create weird situations sometimes !
So we should at least be able to forget (and eventually forgive…) when necessary.
Best regards,
Francois
Please note this is an old thread.
I think that if they did this it could cause legal issues, such as offensive messages being deleted from the recipient before they have a chance to report the sender. We are all responsible for what we say and do, but that doesn't mean we should have the ability to delete our mistakes. It's not like you can delete emails or phone calls or even physical mail.
AppleMan001 wrote:
Please note this is an old thread.
I think that if they did this it could cause legal issues, such as offensive messages being deleted from the recipient before they have a chance to report the sender.
Yes, it's an old one, but I started to send texts to the wrong recipients recently, and the problem is still up to date ! 😁
Of course, I agree with you : there must be a legal justification.
But, just for the discussion, I mean, when someone insists and really wants you to know he hates you, you can mute him or even report him, make screen captures…
We are all responsible for what we say and do, but that doesn't mean we should have the ability to delete our mistakes. It's not like you can delete emails or phone calls or even physical mail.
Very often, and that's actually why I searched this thread, I send a message to someone else than the one I thought. That's life, I mean, this is not just about agressive people. I would appreciate to be able to recover my mistake, and to not bother the wrong recipient, cancel the message. Plus, it can be something confidential.
What is the meaning of a mistake if we don't have the chance to recover it ?
Even the law, includes this aspect : « Is it the first, second or third time he did this ? » — I don't know in the US, but in France it's the case (and we use same iPhones).
This is one of the radical aspects of Apple I dislike, and on this point particularly, I disagree with you, because, I think, a mistake should be recoverable.
If, for example, I send a very rude text to someone, and then realize it was too much, I want to be able to delete it, because I changed my mind.
But if I consider it normal (maybe I should not) then the recipient will still be able to report me.
That's my opinion, and just wanted to share it. A mistake should be recoverable.
Hope my english is not too bad,
Best regards,
Francois
You can delete it from your device. But you have no right to go into someone else's device and delete something from it. And this is not just Apple, you can't delete an SMS message from my phone either, even if we both have Android phones.
deggie wrote:
You have no right to go into someone else's device and delete something from it.
Yes, of course.
But here it's not about going into someone else's phone and deleting something, it's not hacking, or doing something illegal.
It's just being able (for example) to cancel sending.
If I send something wrong, or to the wrong recipient and I want to cancel it, I can't. It's not deleting something in its phone, while it's not been delivered yet.
Today, when I press send, it's already too late. I my opinion it's a bit unfair, a little bit radical.
If, when I delete something on my side, the recipient's phone ask him if he agrees to delete it too on its side, it could be a good first step.
Ideally, it's just my opinion, I think may be Apple should consider the possibility to delete a copy on the recipient's phone. Why :
Legally, it's comparable to the author rights management, like for a painter.
What happens when a painter wants to modify his painting already in the museum for years ? It already happened.. What can we say ? He is the author !
And, even when the painting has been sold, he remains the author, and by that, keeps his rights to modify it.
As an author of the message, I have rights. The recipient has rights on his phone too !
I'm not asking to delete the entire content of the recipient's phone, just to be able to use my rights, as an author, to delete the piece, and any copies of it, if I want to.
I really think it's important. And I understand it implies difficult situations, like AppleMan001 said : what to do with some bad situations ?
I think for these situations, the first answer could be that the recipient has rights too, and blocking a specific phone number is one of his rights, on his phone.
What do you think ?
Best regards
Suggestions here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/
francoisbernard wrote:
deggie wrote:
You have no right to go into someone else's device and delete something from it.
Yes, of course.
But here it's not about going into someone else's phone and deleting something, it's not hacking, or doing something illegal.
It's just being able (for example) to cancel sending.
You already can cancel a send, but not after the fact.
Csound1 wrote:
You already can cancel a send, but not after the fact.
Yes, you mean, by not touching «send» button ? 😁
Yes.
Be sure I will !
Thank you for the link !
Well, Ok.
It's an hidden functionality I should use more often ! 😁
But more seriously, what do you think about the comparison with author rights ?
francoisbernard wrote:
Well, Ok.
It's an hidden functionality I should use more often ! 😁
But more seriously, what do you think about the comparison with author rights ?
There is none,
When I delete a iMessage from a conversation, does it get deleted from the recipients screen as well ?