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Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,460 points)

I am currently using iPhoto 08.   I use it primarily for scientific and engineering purposes.   It is working perfectly and satisfies all of my needs.

 

However, several of our machines are still running Snow Leopard.  We feel that we should upgrade to Mavericks.  If we do this we may be forced to use iPhoto 11 which has a major flaw.  No Keywords under thumbnails.

 

I do very little editing, but I do have about 10,000 images and I use iPhoto 08 on about 15 iPhoto albums for organizational purposes.

 

With Aperture, can I have Keywords under the thumbnails the way earlier versions of iPhoto did?   Can I have multiple albums?

 

 

Thanks

  • léonie Level 9 Level 9 (64,200 points)

    In  Aperture you can configure the metadata overlays below the thumbnail or images I n the browser and viewer or in list view. You can switch between custom overlays with keywords, IPTC, Exif data. You can have several albums an d smart albums like in iPhoto.

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,460 points)

    I'm glad to hear that Aperture can put keywords under each thumbnail.

     

    Is there a way to transfer the keywords in iPhoto over to Aperture?

     

    Regarding multiple albums.   I am presently using a program called “iPhoto Library manager”.  Do I use something like that with Aperture?

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (128,960 points)

    Upgrade to iPhoto 11. then Aperture can open the iPhoto Library and there's no transfer, all your material is there.

     

    You don't use iPhoto Library Manager for multiple albums in iPhoto. You can have as many albums as you like in any version of iPhoto. You might be using it for multiple libraries. Again, you don't need it for that either, but it does add some features. You can simply create a new Library in either application simply by holding the option/alt key on launch, though why you would need mutliple libraries with only 10k photos I have no idea.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (128,960 points)

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  • CroMagnum Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Aperture is a nice application.

    It requires some study to get the difference between using iPhoto & Aperture, however.

     

    There are robust features you may love, or you may never use.

     

    Aperture will likely be useful for some time to come, but there is an End of Life sticker on it.

    I’ve been reading that it will be decommissioned. No doubt Apple has a better alternative in the wings.

  • CroMagnum Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    You don’t need the old library manager: You can create multiple libraries in Aperture.

    The library manager exists because once an iPhoto library gets very large, it can be cumbersome.

     

    Aperture is quite nice for the most part. Don’t turn it into a junk drawer, though.

     

    Tagging in Aperture is fairly sophisticated. Its not hard.

    nevertheless, getting your mind around the best way to organize & tag images has a learning curve to it.

     

    I would recommend reading up on how to structure Aperture & its methodology before you jump in to restructure your images after moving them. Check your local library or online for that information. There are a few decent books available. Read the Aperture manual.


    Aperture has a different method than LightRoom’s 2 pronged approach. I can’t say either one is perfect.

    Just my opinion.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (128,960 points)

    Both iPhoto and Aperture will be replaced in 2015 with a new app called Photos.

     

    iPhoto and Aperture use the same Library. It's exactly as cumbersome in iPhoto as it is in Aperture - in other words, good for hundreds of thousands of images.

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,460 points)

    Aperture will likely be useful for some time to come, but there is an End of Life sticker on it.

     

    You're right, I had completely forgotten about that fact.  I now remember that Apple has announced that they are going to discontinue iPhoto and Aperture and replace it with “Photos” in 2015.

     

    I am not allowed to store my data in the cloud (someone else's server in another state).   So hopefully, cloud storage will be optional.   There's not much information on "Photos".  But, it will follow the current trend of making desktop programs look and work like smart phone Apps.  

     

    http://www.maclife.com/article/news/apple_abandons_iphoto_aperture_favor_os_x_yo semite_photos_app

     

    For now, I think I'll stick with iPhoto 08 until the dust settles a little.   Most of the people that I know that quit using iPhoto (because of the elimination of keywords under the thumbnails) switched to Lightroom.  That is a possibility for me also. I tend to be somewhat biased towards Apple software because of the great support you can get on this forum.

     

    But sometimes, you have to go 3rd party.

     

    Thanks to all for the suggestions.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (128,960 points)

    Cloud storage will be optional.

     

    It will look like an app from the Yosemite operating system and will work like a Mac app not an iOS one.

  • torreypines Level 1 Level 1 (55 points)

    If you are still running multiple platforms on snow leopard it is way, way past time that you upgrade your macs to mavericks (latest vers 10.9.4).

    You will then need to then convert your iPhoto08 application software to the current iPhoto11. Be sure you back up your old iPhoto08 libraries before converting to iPhoto11. You can easily turn off iCloud storage options in iPhoto11. You should also check all your mac platforms'  specs to see if they can indeed upgrade to Yosemite when released later this year. Good luck.

  • rondfranks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    But will it have the same, or at least most of the features as Aperture, or will it be dumbed down like other Apple programs have lately.

  • Terence Devlin Level 10 Level 10 (128,960 points)

    We're going to have to wait and see.

     

    Mind you, I don't necessarily buy that 'dumbed down' comment...

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,460 points)

    though why you would need mutliple libraries with only 10k photos I have no idea.

     

    I prefer to keep my images of spacecraft propulsion systems, separate from family photos.   When reviewing engineering imagery with colleagues, they (usually) don't want to see pictures of me at Disneyland.

     

    I have now brought all of my images into the latest iPhoto and OS 10.9.4.   Using Terminal, I was able to turn off Faces.  However, I'm now leaning towards jumping to Aperture.  (I MUST have Keywords under Thumbnails).

     

    Unless I go third-party, all iPhoto and Aperture users are going to end up with Apple's new Photo program anyway.

  • Ziatron Level 4 Level 4 (3,460 points)

    If you are still running multiple platforms on snow leopard it is way, way past time that you upgrade your macs to mavericks (latest vers 10.9.4).

     

    Ever since I bought my first Macintosh in February 1984 I've always looked forward to the latest hardware and software from Apple... until recently.    I won't bore you with the details, but I have gone through a series of situations where I had perfectly working software that when "upgraded" removed important features.

     

    Moreover, I had been using a very expensive piece of hardware that could only be manipulated on a PPC capable OS.  ( NOT Apple's fault they never updated their software for Intel processors. )  So, I have remained with OS 10.6.8 longer than I should have.

     

    Anyway, I now have the latest iPhoto and OS 10.9.4 on my personal Mac Pro Tower.   As you can imagine, I've had to go through several steps to bring my image libraries up-to-date.  Backing up all the way.  ( I just bought 3 more large hard drives from Amazon today. )

     

    check all your mac platforms'  specs to see if they can indeed upgrade to Yosemite when released later this year. Good luck.

     

    Thanks, we "loaded up" on 2012 Mac Pros before the "black cylinder" Mac Pro was released.  It appears that any Macintosh that can run Mavericks can also run Yosemite.

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