Google Reverted to Old Layout

Test?

I should add that I am having all the google revert experiences on my iMac OS X 10.6.8, using Safari 5.1.10. Not when using my iPhone 6.1.3.

The flicker anomaly happens when I link to Space.com, and maybe other unconfirmed sites, from Gmail when opened with Safari, but not when opened using Chrome.

OOps! I misreported something. The Macbook with the old operating system did revert. The person informed me it had not but they meant to say that Mavericks on their iMac had not. Maybe Apple's in on it. Their silence is saying something. Upgrade or else, it seems.

If no one else is going to say it I find it a real shame that Frank (Mad Frank) had his comprehensive fix deleted from this thread... and I may suffer the same fate which would be an indictment itself in practise.

From my many years work as a designer and advertising professional I hardly believe that Frank's posted fix for the many many Apple/Mac users still wanting to use OS10.5.8 (Safari 5.0.6) and OS10.6.8 (Safari 5.1.10) with the search engine in question be it by choice or financial reasons constitutes a breach of advertising due to a link as has been told my the moderators to Frank ...

From my perspective it was a valid and very needed fix that helped many when they could still see it. Frank took a great deal of time to look at this and come up with a solution for the many users that can't upgrade due to financial reasons, hardship or simply by choice. Would it matter if a user was re directed to google as they make that choice to do so?... why should this be seen as a valid and required issue to act on?

Terms and conditions are fine but how can one validate to remove anything they want on a discussion forum that is in essence a post helping people, really helping on an issue that has created some disruption for Apple Mac users as can be seen on forums all over the world. To remove the post for what ever reason (advertising infringement) because they own the site and to exercise a deletion smacks of a totalitarian aspect of governance over a discussion that was of benefit to many. How does this sit with Apple's promise to customers within Apple’s Brand Experience? Why not suggest a change/edit to Frank's post to fit in with 'requirements'... work with the customers and end users... help us... please?

"Apple is committed to bringing the best personal computing experience to students, educators, creative professionals and consumers around the world through its innovative hardware, software and Internet offerings." the best personal experience? come on... help me out here... make sure the experience is there to help those on Apple Mac machines that run older versions of OS and Safari by choice or necessity and that if a fix is known it is passed on...

It is sad that there are people still posting on this thread that do not know the fix Frank has created as it has been removed... they are still saying what has happened regarding the search engine in question and scrabbling about for an answer and get a negative closed door... come on... how about some empathy for those that can't upgrade as is always the suggested reply... are legacy customers not due some respect and empathy on this?... All Apple users are created equal but some are more equal than others?
I ask why should Apple not wish the fix to be known? I cannot believe this is related to an advertising aspect... if not why not invite Frank to post his fix on this thread as he did on the google boards with images etc without the links being needed then, so no breach of advertising and actually support this but with the safety caveat that Apple cannot be held responsible for this fix... complete with safety clause...?

I really find it disappointing... as a graphic designer since the early 70s and using Macs from day one as a professional designer I have lived and gone through many changes, even worked with all the third party programme developers as a beta tester and pulled my hair out at oddities and OS fixes and upgrades but always found Apple were really listening and I in turn resisted the agencies I worked for that were using PCs... now? I am not so sure as the thin end gets thinner....

It will be what it is..
Thanks Frank for your sterling efforts, for me they are very much appreciated, and the Mac world needs people like you that show some empathy and care for fellow mac users. I doff my cap.

seeing as I cannot delete my post above I will post this now! Fancy not being able to edit or delete a post after 15 minutes on reflection! Oh well...

I am pleased to see that the moderators have indicated Frank can post the complete fix that was on the google forums in this thread if he so wishes...

Once again, thanks Frank for your sterling efforts

ok guys, here's the solution: close safari, open the terminal and paste this string:

defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "'Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9) AppleWebKit/537.71 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0 Safari/537.71'"

That's it!

unbelievablecazzons wrote:

ok guys, here's the solution: close safari, open the terminal and paste this string:

defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "'Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9) AppleWebKit/537.71 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0 Safari/537.71'"

That's it!

Doesn't work with Safari Version 5.x unfortunately...

The following is a "Fix/ Solution" that I have created that solves the problem for users of Safari Ver 5.1.10 that Google introduced recently where they now block older version of Safari from using the "Modern Style" layout and features of Google which they had been used to...

You can still use the "Modern Style" Google with Safari 5.1.10 via the "Develop/ User Agent/ Other" menu to switch to a "User Agent" that allows you to use the "Modern Google" however, there is no way to make this as the permanent "Default User Agent" in Safari 5.1.10 and it has to be done for each new tab you open and every time you startup Safari... which is not exactly good or helpful...

That's where this "Fix" solves that for you. This fix will make sure Safari 5.1.10 starts up and uses a custom "User Agent" that allows you to continue to use the "Modern Style" Google and not have to constantly change the "User Agent" via the "Develop" menu...

It also has the benefit over other methods that are about of using FireFox "User Agents" in that this fix creates a Mac specific "User agent" that means you get the correct pages from whatever it is you are accessing on the internet (The FireFox one causes some changes to graphics and page layout when used on a Mac)...

As long as you are certain you are using Safari Version 5.1.10 on a Mac running OSX 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) and they are all fully updated as far as they can be then this fix should work for you (it already has for several thousand other Safari 5.1. 10 users whom have tried it)...

INSTRUCTIONS.... Safari Version 5.1.10 Fix To Restore The "Modern Style" Google...

IMPORTANT !!! --- MAKE SURE SAFARI ISN"T RUNNING ---

Download the following DMG which contains the "Fix" for Safari Ver 5.1.10...

http://www.mediafire.com/download/7wsl4n5siu7cphw/Safari_Ver_5.1.10_Google_Fix.d mg

When you open the DMG file you will see a window that looks like this...

IMPORTANT --- MAKE SURE SAFARI ISN"T RUNNING ---

STEP 1: Double click on the folder called "A" to open it...

STEP 2: From the new window that opens from folder "A" find the file called "Safari" and drag

it to your Desktop screen to make a copy of it (this is both for safekeeping and in case the "fix"

doesn't work for you so that you can still restore the original file)...

STEP 3: Drag the file from the downloaded DMG window called "Safari" onto the folder in the

same window called "A"...

Now start Safari as you would normally and if the fix has worked you should once again be seeing the

"Modern" look Google once again. You should copy/ move the original "Safari" file you copied to your

Desktop screen to a safe place for storage (Downloads or Documents for example) in case you ever

need or want to restore the original file to Safari at some pint in the future...

IMPORTANT:- If you're still seeing the old version of Google in Safari after trying this fix then

unfortunately it hasn't worked for you and you MUST replace/ put back the

original "Safari" file you copied to your Desktop screen...

This is simple to do and is achieved by simply dragging the original "Safari"

file you copied to your Desktop screen onto the "A" folder in the "Safari Fix"

window...

Happy Googling - MadFranko008 (2014)

PS: Thank you to HapptyTed for the comments... :-)

Out of context curiosity: the versions in APPLE Safari's history seem to be all wrongly denominated. For instance: if version 5.1.9(0) is before 5.1.10 then it should be named 5.1.09.

Now:

THANK YOU MadFrankoooo! 😀

Finally Safari is back… at least for some more time…

The instructions in you post are better than the .dmg's which, in Step 3, don't alert us to the fact we HAVE to replace the Safari file — for there is already one inside the A folder with the same name.

GREAT JOB!

🙂

The instructions in the DMG are actually quite clear and IMPORTANT "STEP 2" which says...

"STEP 2: From the new window that has just opened find and drag the file called "Safari" to your Desktop Screen to make a copy of it..."

This makes sure you have dragged the file called "Safari" out of the "A" folder to make sure you have a backup copy of it should the fix not work for you. So it is indeed quite clear that you are replacing the file from the DMG called "Safari" with the one in the "A" folder and at the same time making sure you have a backup copy of the original file should the fix not work... ergo there's no need to "alert" in Step 3 that you are replacing a file as the instructions make it kinda obvious that this is what you'll be doing... 🙂

After all you can't have two files identically named "Safari" in the the same folder... 😉

On a side note: I've never understood the bizarre version/ naming conventions used in Mac software or even PC software. It make no sense to have a version number with two decimal points it !!!. For example Version 5.6.3 !!! 😕

It really should be just one point ie: 5.6 or 5.7 etc...

Being an Amiga user which follows the sensible version/ naming conventions of 5.x etc... (one point only) it just seems totally illogical to me the way people whom write software for the Mac or the PC use this bizarre "two point" version number convention... 😕

Anywhoo, hope the fix worked for you and I hope you followed the instructions carefully and kept a back up copy of the file named "Safari" from the "A" folder just in case you need to restore the original file... 😀

Hi, can you make a new version with this or newer user agent?

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_9_3) AppleWebKit/537.75.14 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/7.0.3 Safari/7046A194A

Thank you so much!!!

I'll look into that for you as I'd need to test it first to see if it will indeed work without causing too many problems...

The "hack" I did before for Safari sets the to User Agent to the following...

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.59.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/6.1.6 Safari/534.59.10

I'll try and implement the User Agent you just gave and test it out. I don't use Safari anymore myself these days but still have it available mainly because it's just to problematic with todays internet and instead I use Chrome & Firefox which are not ideal nor do I like those browsers personally but there's not much other choice these days sadly... :-/

I'll post the new "Hack" here if it works after testing but as before you use it at your own risk and follow carefully any instructions I give with it for installing it... :-)

On my guest session (without logging in) I was prompted to update Safari (I am currently on Safari 5.1.10) when viewing exactly the page 3 of this thread.

After logging in, it disappeared. lol

Hello, I'm having the same problem here 😟 i hope they fix this soon!

Have you contacted Google? I don't like Google (for reasons that are mine) and I use nothing except the map application.

Barry

Same problem here. Very strange. I deleted cookies recently, but I don't think that has anything to do with it.

Interestingly, I suddenly stopped receiving gmail push notifications on my iPhone too.