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Q: How do i use Peer-to-peer AirPlay discovery and playback?

I saw on the Apple iOS enterprise site that I can use AirPlay without connecting to a wireless network, dose this happen via Bluetooth? i cannot discover my iPhone iOS 8 on the AppleTV iOS 8.

 

From enterprise site;

Peer-to-peer AirPlay discovery and playback.

With iOS 8, you can wirelessly connect iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch to Apple TV without first connecting to the organization’s network. Which means you can present or share your work even if you're offline or the organization has a complex network.

AppleTV 2, iOS 8, Bluetooth integrated model

Posted on Sep 17, 2014 1:58 PM

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  • by sweetpete74,

    sweetpete74 sweetpete74 Sep 17, 2014 6:33 PM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 17, 2014 6:33 PM in response to steveranieri

    I'm also struggling to figure this out. I updated both iPhone, iPad and 3rd gen Apple TV today. When I'm disconnected from the wifi network, I can't see the Apple TV in Control Center Airplay.

  • by celliott147,

    celliott147 celliott147 Sep 17, 2014 11:54 PM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 17, 2014 11:54 PM in response to steveranieri

    I was able to get this to successfully work. I had to reboot the  TV and the iPhone after their respective updates. If you are logged into the same icloud account on both devices, there will appear to be no security to keep random strangers from streaming to your TV from outside your house. When not logged into iCloud, or when logged in as a different user on each device, streaming will require you to enter a 4 digit PIN that the  TV produces and puts up on the screen.

  • by Time4Rambling,

    Time4Rambling Time4Rambling Sep 18, 2014 1:01 AM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:01 AM in response to steveranieri

    Took a while to find this.

    Per footnote #2 http://www.apple.com/appletv/

    Requires the 3rd Generation, Early 2013 model. Also know as A1469 (EMC 2633) (The EMC is printed on the bottom)

    The Model number "MD199LL/A" is not useful, as it's also used on on the EMC 2528 model (Which is the 3rd Generation Early 2012 model,  doesn't work)

  • by justjoined,

    justjoined justjoined Sep 18, 2014 1:49 AM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:49 AM in response to steveranieri

    You have to keep wifi and bluetooth 'on'.  Disconnect from the wifi network on your device but keep the wifi on.  You won't have an internet connection but you'll be able to airplay.         

  • by SCorson,

    SCorson SCorson Sep 18, 2014 4:14 AM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 18, 2014 4:14 AM in response to steveranieri

    so just to be clear...........you cannot airplay using the new peer to peer system and have wifi?

  • by ChrisPepin,

    ChrisPepin ChrisPepin Sep 18, 2014 4:49 AM in response to SCorson
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    Sep 18, 2014 4:49 AM in response to SCorson

    Doesn't work for me.  I can't see my third generation Apple TV from my iPhone 5S running iOS 8 unless both are on the same wi-fi network.  Bluetooth is turned on for both Apple TV and iPhone 5S.   My AppleTV is connected to my home wifi, my iPhone 5S has wifi turned on but not connected to a network

  • by sweetpete74,

    sweetpete74 sweetpete74 Sep 18, 2014 7:56 AM in response to Time4Rambling
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    Sep 18, 2014 7:56 AM in response to Time4Rambling

    This is likely the issue. Mine is 3rd generation, but not RevA. Thanks for pointing that out - I couldn't see any documentation and assume they haven't had a chance to put any support docs up yet.

     

    The penalty of early adoption I guess.

  • by sweetpete74,

    sweetpete74 sweetpete74 Sep 18, 2014 7:57 AM in response to ChrisPepin
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    Sep 18, 2014 7:57 AM in response to ChrisPepin

    Is your Apple TV a rev A 3rd generation? Check the model number and look at the footnote in Time4Rambling post. You're likely in the same situation I'm in.

  • by sweetpete74,

    sweetpete74 sweetpete74 Sep 18, 2014 7:58 AM in response to SCorson
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    Sep 18, 2014 7:58 AM in response to SCorson

    The idea is to connect to it when you're not on wifi - for example at a friends house or in a business you're visiting. This way you can Airplay without having to connect to the wifi network. At home, you're likely connected to your own wifi. Good for letting your friends play music without getting them on your wifi.

  • by andythecurefan,

    andythecurefan andythecurefan Sep 18, 2014 8:57 AM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 18, 2014 8:57 AM in response to steveranieri

    I was trying this earlier this morning. I assumed that I would turn my WiFi off to make sure it wasn't connecting that way. But I suppose I will tell my iPad to "forget" my home network to test this out. I hope it works as planned. And I am assuming I have a 3rd Generation rev A as I've only bought my Apple TV a few months ago.

  • by SCorson,

    SCorson SCorson Sep 18, 2014 12:35 PM in response to andythecurefan
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    Sep 18, 2014 12:35 PM in response to andythecurefan

    I tried forgetting my home network but it still doesn't work?   i don't even know where to begin looking for the apple tv....I assumed it would be in the AirPlay tab as usual........very frustrating

  • by andythecurefan,

    andythecurefan andythecurefan Sep 18, 2014 1:05 PM in response to SCorson
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:05 PM in response to SCorson

    If that's true then Apple really needs to address how to use this feature. It was posted to be coming with iOS 8.

     

    We are assuming everyone here is using iOS8 and AppleTV firmware 7.0, right?

  • by steveranieri,

    steveranieri steveranieri Sep 18, 2014 1:04 PM in response to steveranieri
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:04 PM in response to steveranieri

    I am using iOS 8 on both devices and Software update 7.0 on the ATV

  • by sweetpete74,

    sweetpete74 sweetpete74 Sep 18, 2014 1:16 PM in response to SCorson
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:16 PM in response to SCorson

    You've verified you have all the requirements? From the footnote in the  link above:

     

    Peer-to-peer AirPlay requires a Mac device (2012 or later) running OS X 10.10 or an iOS device (2012 or later) running iOS 8 and an Apple TV third-generation rev A (model A1469) running Apple TV software 7.0.

     

    I got it to work on 1 work Apple TV. Forgot the wifi network, had wifi and BT turned on but not connected to anything. Pulled up Control Center and the Apple TV was there. Turned Airplay On and was able to do both audio and video mirroring. On a second ATV at work (same model) I couldn't get it to show up. At home I believe I don't have the rev A 3rd gen model so I won't be able to do it.

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