Why is the camera roll album gone iOS 8

Meg St._Clair wrote:

MLB19 wrote:

BRING BACK CAMERA ROLL!!!!!!

Submit your feedback directly to Apple using the appropriate link on the Feedback page:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

They don't have an option for iOS 8 yet.

obsidianspider wrote:

Meg St._Clair wrote:

MLB19 wrote:

BRING BACK CAMERA ROLL!!!!!!

Submit your feedback directly to Apple using the appropriate link on the Feedback page:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

They don't have an option for iOS 8 yet.

So pick something else and explain it in the comments section.

Every release of every iOS or OSX over the years, no matter when or where will always throw up a few people who are not happy with changes. Unless those people are the vast majority or at least representative of a large percentage, then the changes will stay. These posts eventually drop off as most users get used to the changes. If you are not happy you can either direct your scorn at them feedback

or stop using their products.

Cheers

Pete

Everyone give feedback though! There are so many other great features of IOS 8 and once this one gets fixed it'll be so much better so just take one minute and fill out that link!

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Things not to like about the new camera-roll-is-photo-stream-is-camera-roll-and-you-can't-tease-them-apart arrangement:

1) You can't just scroll back through a clean, uninterrupted view of all photos that were captured by the device that is in your hand. "Recently added" only goes back a few days, and "collections" is broken up by (usually unhelpful) date and place markers.

2) Plus both of the foregoing intermingle photos taken on the device, and photos taken by - well, anything else that you happen to have pushed up elsewhere to photo stream. This means, for example, any old photo I scanned onto my desktop and edited in iPhoto now clutters up my phone. It means that pics that my kids take on the old iOS devices I let them play with are now inextricably part of my device's photo history. (I could choose to turn off photo stream on their devices but I kind of liked being able to check in on our shared Photostream to see what they were up to. Now I have to choose - all of their stuff, or none of it.)

3) It appears that I can no longer delete a photo locally from my device and leave it on the Photostream. If I don't like it locally, Apple assumes I don't want it anywhere.

Those are just things I've noticed in the hour I've had iOS 8 installed. I would be grateful for anyone who can suggest ways of recreating the old functionality. In the meantime I wholeheartedly agree with other posters who have directed us to https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html . Tell Apple what you think.

John Dorsey wrote:

It wouldn't have killed Apple to remind people that OS upgrades are perilous and that it would be a good idea to back up irreplaceable content before upgrading.

They do: Update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch iOS software

Before you make any updates, back up your device to iCloud or iTunes.

iCloud: My Photo Stream FAQ - Apple Support

How long are My Photo Stream photos stored in iCloud?

The photos you upload to My Photo Stream are stored in iCloud for 30 days to give your devices plenty of time to connect and download them.

There's no excuse for not backing up your data properly. It's not Apple's responsibility to force you to do so. They provide the step-by-step articles to do so.

John Dorsey wrote:

Or, if a warning - buried as it might be in a page of click-through verbiage - might not drive the point home, then code in something in the upgrade process that ensures that photos on the device which are not mirrored in the cloud, be preserved in a special folder. When an upgrade process is *going* to remove data from a phone, Apple was either sloppy in not realizing that; or callous in not specifically warning its customers of the risk. ("Warning! This upgrade will delete from your phone any photos you have not backed up! Do you want to proceed, Y/N?")

Here, tell them. We can't help you.If you have no interest in protecting your data, then don't carry on when you lose it.

feedback

Pete

John Dorsey wrote:

petermac87 wrote:

Well said and sums up people's ignorance as being bulletproof. People also drink drive, because nothing bad will ever happen to them. Should they complain to the automobile manufacturer or alcohol company after they cripple themselves?

Oh, gosh no. But manufacturers - knowing that drivers will get into accidents no matter how often they are reminded to be attentive, or not to drink, or to pull over when they're drowsy - include air bags and seat belts (*and* seat belts), and specially designed compartments that crumple just so, to protect passengers from these inevitabilities, often caused by the drivers' own negligence or recklessness. I suppose that the mfrs aren't quite so thoughtful, inasmuch as most of these are mandated by law, but I'm grateful for that. It sounds as though you are saying that protecting people from themselves is never warranted either by sound business practice or basic thoughtfulness.

As is the ability to back up vital and irreplaceable data by OS developers. You don't have to put your seat belt on, dude!

Stop whinging and spread the word to your family and friends to BACKUP.

If you are not happy that Apple don't come around and do it personally for each user, then tell them here feedback

😉

Pete

I subscribed to this thread because it is where Apple directs users for Support. However, after several days all I see is the same smug users telling everyone that this is not Apple, Apple are (sic) not here, you should have backed up, etc.

The new Photos App is no longer useful to me. I take pictures, I save pictures I've found online, or have had sent to me through email or Message, from which I make drawings (photos of which I also take and store), and have no interest in iCould, iCould Drive, iPhoto, Family Sharing, PhotoStream or any of that. I also have no use for Collections, which scatter my photos around according to metadata within the photo of no relevance to my current project. I need to see my Photos in the precise sequence I saved/took/created them, in thumbnail view, and be able to post them online in exactly that sequence.

As an aside, I can tell you that Apple certainly does "listen" to this thread, since they deleted one of my posts which explained how I was able to downgrade, successfully, on my own device, to 7.1.2 and get back all my content. (They said that was dubious advice.)

What I would hope to see going forward in this thread is:

1. advice on how to use the new Photo storage paradigm to get content organized in the order saved to the device,

2. experience and suggestions on how to use devices running iOS 8 with popular social media apps such as

• Instagram
• Facebook
• Twitter

3. Where to find any official response or plans from Apple. Even if they are only rumors from developers or anyone with "behind the scenes" access etc. It is very frustrating to see no actual help here, where we are directed, and no response, not even an auto-reply, to the Feedback we are all being told to use.

Has anyone gone to an Apple Store to talk to a "Genius"? If so, please share that experience and anything learned.

Thank you.

taylor514ce wrote:

As an aside, I can tell you that Apple certainly does "listen" to this thread, since they deleted one of my posts which explained how I was able to downgrade, successfully, on my own device, to 7.1.2 and get back all my content. (They said that was dubious advice.)

Just so you know - that was the Hosts who removed your post. The Hosts are Apple employees but they vet the posts for adherence to the TOU, not for anything else. They keep the spammers off the site, they remove posts that are dubious, ill-advised, inflammatory, or in some other way in violation of the TOU.

1. advice on how to use the new Photo storage paradigm to get content organized in the order saved to the device

At this point, we are not aware of any way to modify how photos are saved to the app. This would need to be something that was added or changed if you are talking about directly saving items to the Photo app within the device itself.

2. experience and suggestions on how to use devices running iOS 8 with popular social media apps such as

• Instagram
• Facebook
• Twitter

Not sure if it was this thread or not, but Meg St. Claire provided a way to do this: Move the items you want to post to these apps into an Album that you create (if they are not in Recently Added or one of the Albums already). She indicated that she could post to FB from the Album.

3. Where to find any official response or plans from Apple. Even if they are only rumors from developers or anyone with "behind the scenes" access etc. It is very frustrating to see no actual help here, where we are directed, and no response, not even an auto-reply, to the Feedback we are all being told to use.

Sorry, but again, we are just users like you are. This forum is a user to user forum, and we do not have any more insight into what Apple's plans are than you do. The Feedback link is the same link we use to provide our thoughts and issues as well.

Although you may not feel you have gotten help for this particular issue, you need to understand, as users, we are fumbling around with this new structure just like you are. We have been given no special insight as to how it works, why it works that way, how to make it work better. We are doing our best to help as we gain expertise by experiment. But, there's not a lot more than we can do than that.

Has anyone gone to an Apple Store to talk to a "Genius"? If so, please share that experience and anything learned.

Thank you.

Cheers,

GB

I absolutely agree with you. I was enjoying the update until I opened my photos and now I am highly reconsidering getting a new iPhone. I currently have the 5S but I will not buy a new iPhone if I have to use the "collections". Why on earth did Apple think that removing Camera Roll would be a good idea? Just horrible.

I 100% agree with you, especially the "Recently Deleted" folder that I am unable to delete. If I delete something, I wanted to delete it and not have to see it again. I really just want camera roll back.

I'm not a fan either, yet, but I think they plan on you pressing 'favourite' on every photo you want to keep handy which will in essence become the camera roll album. That way you won't get a camera roll album full of some photos you want to keep forever and some you just forgot to delete...
Just a thought, but it MAY become a good thing...

So you're telling me that instead of deleting my photos in one folder and being done with it, I now have to delete it once, then go to another folder and delete it again? Thank you for enlightening me. Sure is an efficient way of deleting things.

That's only something I've just learned, don't shoot the messenger!
By the looks of it, you can leave them and they will auto delete after 30 days anyway, with a little countdown of 'days left' before deleting on each photo.