No SIM card installed keeps popping up

Gbr440 wrote:

Lots of places do free sims and as per my original post it doesn't even have to be a working sim, I have been using an old Vodafone sim cut down with a pair of scissors in an ipad which is locked to the three network yet I have not had the message since inserting the sim, all I get is no service top left where it normally says what network you have!!!

Yes I agree that hiding the problem rather than fixing it, but it is a solution and it does work. And as above its not hard to get hold of a free sim.

Sorry to disagree, but that's not a "solution" at all!

It's a mere workaround at best and I will not spend a cent on a SIM so Apple can relax on their billions.

It's an EIGHTHUNDRED EURO tablet for crying out loud !!!

I agree it is a workaround and not a fix but it is free some people might charge but there are more than enough free ones, so there is no need to pay for a SIM and yes I agree its a seriously expensive tablet and that there are some things you can expect!!!

But this is not the first time Apple have not listened to there customers!!!

@Gbr440,

I'm sorry that I can't share your optimism on this matter.

I've been trying to find those SIMs since the problem appeared on iOS8.0, but here there are no places where I can find a free SIM, especially nano-SIMs.

I have lots of old SIMs and a few micro SIMs too, but should I risk damaging the tray of my iPad due to a bad or incorrect cut made to turn them into nano-sized SIMs? I already see the face of one of their geniuses when I try to explain that it's their fault, if I've damaged my device.

So yes, I appreciate your advice, but no, I wouldn't ever recommend following it. i've paid for an AppleCare, not for a chance to use the advices of the iFixit team...

Thanks.

It's certainly your choice whether to follow the advice of someone who has shown a workaround actually, well, works. As they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Clearly, your resistance comes from making a point about what's owed you. Fair enough. But if you can get past that, at least until Apple does address the problem, then maybe adding my voice and experience cutting a sim cards will convince you to help yourself.

In fact, even mobile operators use a punch or sorts to cut full-size, and micro-SIMS to fit a nano slot. When that's not available guess what they use. Yep, scissors. With a guide, I've personally cut three SIMS to fit my new devices with smaller sims with no adverse affects to either my devices or service. When you care about whether the SIM will work or not, maybe you have a point that doing it freehand might cause problems, but in this case you have nothing to lose

Alfred DeRose wrote:

It's certainly your choice whether to follow the advice of someone who has shown a workaround actually, well, works. As they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Clearly, your resistance comes from making a point about what's owed you. Fair enough. But if you can get past that, at least until Apple does address the problem, then maybe adding my voice and experience cutting a sim cards will convince you to help yourself.

In fact, even mobile operators use a punch or sorts to cut full-size, and micro-SIMS to fit a nano slot. When that's not available guess what they use. Yep, scissors. With a guide, I've personally cut three SIMS to fit my new devices with smaller sims with no adverse affects to either my devices or service. When you care about whether the SIM will work or not, maybe you have a point that doing it freehand might cause problems, but in this case you have nothing to lose

I have no idea, why you sorta keep defending Apple like that?

I am not a fanboy. My first Apple product was the iPad2, then 3, now Air. I don't own an iPhone.
The iPad is a seriously good product, that's why I bought it in the first place.

Now Apple has effed up and introduced this bug (among many others). No problem so far.

But why should it be my job now to "fix it"?

And for your information: I asked around and NOBODY had a leftover Nano-Sim, also I neither run a telecommunications business nor do I collect phone-themed paraphernalia.
So no, I do NOT have any old SIM cards, be it Nano or any other format. Why would I?

In the end, we are not talking about a "big" thing that would totally change the system or introduces mighty new functions.

I am pretty sure the solution is nothing more than setting a bit in the right place.

And after THREE updates at least, with the bug known since the first day iOS8 was released it should have been more than enough time to fix it once and for all.

So from my perspectice, Apple ist not paying attention, does not care at all and most of all does not even acknowledge.

Which - in my book - sets them on par with any cheapo-produced noname tablet.

Slow down a bit, will you?

You believe you know why I don't want to do it. Well, you got it wrong, does it matter to you?

Can you even consider the possibility that it might not be possible to cut a SIM, for me? Apparently not. We don't know each other well enough, I'd say, so how can you expect to know my reasons? Giving advices is one thing, expecting others to comply doesn't make them friendly advices anymore.

I knew right from the start that if Apple remained silent about the issue there weren't too many other options.

I've never considered acceptable the risk of damaging my device due to their lack of commitment, that's for sure. Should I try every possible workaround to temporarily fix this and the many other issues brought by iOS8? Between you and me: of course. Should I always be happy and be patient, knowing the typical arrogance of the geniuses at Apple Stores? Oh no, I won't.

So, this workaround will force me to create a new data contract with a local provider. Even the cheapest one will cost me 10,00 Euros, and the SIM will have to be 'recharged' at least once a year. That will be wasted money. Should I be happy about that? Don't answer, I'll do it by myself: No.

PPretty sure Lebara pay as you go sims are still free and ship most places in the world and you don't need to put any money on it like I said my iPad is locked to three and I have a prehistoric vodafone sim which expired donkeys years ago but I have not had message since I put it in!!!

I have no idea, why you sorta keep defending Apple like that?

I have absolutely no idea what part of that response you might even misconstrue as defending Apple. The whole post was about ensuring that a workaround exists and works. Again, whether you chose to take it is up to you.

And for your information: I asked around and NOBODY had a leftover Nano-Sim, also I neither run a telecommunications business nor do I collect phone-themed paraphernalia.

That's a shame because it would work for you. But I'd bet any operator store has a few SIMs lying around that they will toss in the trash for one reason or another. If you explained why you need it, I think they might see it as an opportunity to maybe nab you as a customer later.

In the end, we are not talking about a "big" thing that would totally change the system or introduces mighty new functions.

I am pretty sure the solution is nothing more than setting a bit in the right place.

You might be right, but I don't presume to know how Apple sets priorities. Clearly, this one is not at the top of that list. But that also doesn't mean they don't care and are not working on it. Apple has ALWAYS been tight-lipped about these things. I don't like it either, but it is what it is.

Should I always be happy and be patient...?

Absolutely not, but don't sit around waiting for a fix if a workaround will suffice in the mean time.

So, this workaround will force me to create a new data contract with a local provider.

What? Why? See my comment above.

And yet, you still enjoy preaching and giving unsolicited advices. You know, you are sure, you bet. But you don't listen, because you know the truth.

Well, since you have so much spare time, beside annoying users on this forum without adding anything to the matter other than your unsolicited and well known opinion, go yourself and beg for a SIM at any operator store near you. i'm tired of hearing what they say, and tired of listening about your wisdom.

Your point of view is crystal clear. Is that enough for you?

So, don't sit around, and go give your advices to someone else, will you?

Alfred, I am sure you are a "good guy" and you have nothing but good intentions.

If I could easily do it, I just would put a SIM, any SIM, into my iPad and be done with it.

As I wrote before, it's not that easy. Your idea of asking a phone operator via one of those "phone shops" is actually great and I will definitely try that.

If I am successful, it will probably solve MY problem. I still don't think it's the way it should be, but I could live with it.

I firmly believe that I as a customer have a RIGHT to have this resolved by the manufacturer, not by me.

I spent the extra buck and bought the full monty, including LTE even if I don't need it right now. As a result I am punished for that, just because I don't actually have a SIM-card.

I will always spend premium money to get a premium product. It just seems to me that the "service" of Apple is not quite up to the task.

You believe you know why I don't want to do it. Well, you got it wrong,

Well, you did state that you didn't want to damage your iPad. Is that wrong?

does it matter to you?

Just trying to help you out friend. That's why I come here in my free time.

Can you even consider the possibility that it might not be possible to cut a SIM, for me?

Are you saying you have a physical disability? If so, then no, I didn't consider it. But if you are somehow limited, I would expect you to know at least one person who could do it for you.

Apparently not. We don't know each other well enough, I'd say, so how can you expect to know my reasons?

Once again, because you said why you didn't want to do it. Is there another reason you haven't shared?

I knew right from the start that if Apple remained silent about the issue there weren't too many other options.

You only need one option if it works.

I've never considered acceptable the risk of damaging my device due to their lack of commitment, that's for sure.

Not sure why you keep pressing this point about damage. Three people have now told you there is no risk, but ok.

Should I try every possible workaround to temporarily fix this and the many other issues brought by iOS8?

Only if you want to use your iPad until official fixes are released. Otherwise, no.

Should I always be happy and be patient, knowing the typical arrogance of the geniuses at Apple Stores? Oh no, I won't.

No one said you had to be happy and patient. Be angry if you want.

So, this workaround will force me to create a new data contract with a local provider. Even the cheapest one will cost me 10,00 Euros, and the SIM will have to be 'recharged' at least once a year. That will be wasted money. Should I be happy about that? Don't answer, I'll do it by myself: No.

My apologies to both you and RedRioja. I mistakenly quoted you in my response to that user so I'll repeat it here. I'd bet any operator store has a few SIMs lying around that they will toss in the trash for one reason or another. If you explained why you need it, I think they might see it as an opportunity to maybe nab you as a customer later. No need to "waste" your money. On that note, it seems a waste of money to buy a cellular iPad at a 100 EUR premium and not use it on cellular. But that's another debate entirely.

In the end, no one can make you do anything. Just seems a shame you seem more intent on attacking those trying to help you and complaining about what Apple isn't doing while ignoring that you have a fix that will work today. If you change your mind, I provided a couple of options for getting or cutting a SIM. Best of luck.

Thanks, and and you're clearly sane and reasonable.

If I am successful, it will probably solve MY problem. I still don't think it's the way it should be, but I could live with it.

It's not how it should be but at least you'll be enjoying your iPad while you write angry letters to Apple. The best place to do that BTW, is at http://www.apple.com/feedback/ in case you missed that.

I firmly believe that I as a customer have a RIGHT to have this resolved by the manufacturer, not by me.

Yep. No question, it's Apple's responsibility but at least you recognize that if you can do something to avoid enjoying your iPad in the mean time, you'll at least try it.

I will always spend premium money to get a premium product. It just seems to me that the "service" of Apple is not quite up to the task.

I'm not sure what service - or lack of - you're referring to. If you mean Apple is silent on this issue, then I can tell you this is nothing new. Except in exceptionally rare circumstances (antenna-gate, Apple maps, bend-gate) Apple never addresses these things publicly. Developers have early access to iOS releases so things sometimes leak and get reported on the blogs, but the information never comes directly from Apple. And these threads accusing Apple of not caring and screwing their customers pop up with every iOS release and soon fizzle out because subsequent release fix most issues. Look through the history to see it yourself. Yet despite a very vocal subset of users who are very unhappy, Apple consistently rates best in class in customer service. I don't like the silence either, but I've come to live with it. So far for me, things always seem to right themselves in the end.

You are not trying to help, you are just here for your ego. We've all read about the SIM workaround before you started preaching on your free time.

Now you even start accusing everyone on this forum of wasting money to buy the cellular version. Only those who appear to agree with you are 'sane and reasonable' ? yes, that's typical.

So, stop it, and avoid any further comment on other's choices and reasons. This is not your playground. You had something to say, you have told it over and over and over, your way. That's enough.

Take care.

Only those who appear to agree with you are 'sane and reasonable' ?

No, I'm absolutely certain MANY people who don't agree with me are sane and reasonable. You're just not one of them.

Of course, I can't be as 'sane' and 'reasonable' as you are, these are special gifts, as your arrogance.

Bless you.