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iOS 8 Calendar on iPhone showing GMT times for new events.

Hi everyone,


Since updating my iPhone 4S to iOS 8, the Calendar app now shows all my newly added events with GMT times, and not the local time (as I am not in GMT, I am +9 hours). All my previous and existing entries are displaying normally. I have not changed any settings at all. However, if I open one of the new events and enter the events details screen, the local times are clearly displayed along with a GMT equivalent time underneath it.


I have tried changing settings but nothing shows my events in local time as it did before the upgrade to iOS 8. Any ideas? Is this a bug? Am I missing a new setting? Many thanks in advance for your help or advice.


Cheers,

James.

iPhone 4S, iOS 8

Posted on Sep 21, 2014 2:16 AM

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Posted on Sep 23, 2014 8:59 AM

sorry no solution here, just jumping in to say I'm having the same issue on the 6. I hope there is a solution as this is pretty confusing.

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Feb 1, 2015 3:08 PM in response to klane310

About Apple staff claiming this is a "Google problem" etc., I think it's mixed at this point. I agree it's a pathetic joke that Apple has failed to communicate anything about this issue to their front-line tech support staff. On the other hand, the misinformation they gave you used to be a 100% of the time thing. Now it is only part of the time. I was at the Apple store earlier this week and many of their staff were well aware of this issue AND that it is an APPLE ISSUE. I'm not even talking about the Geniuses..I am talking about sales staff on the retail floor.


If there's one thing this whole episode confirms, it is that Apple has absolutely terrible to non-existent internal communications. And we, their customers, suffer for it.

Feb 1, 2015 7:49 PM in response to klane310

It is hard to say whether this is a Google or Apple problem. I did find this article that could explain what everyone is calling a "bug" but after reading this it sounds like it is a "bug" created by Google.


https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/2367918?hl=en


In this article Google explains that they automatically convert any event to UTC time (Coordinated Universal Time, previously known as Greenwich Mean Time or GMT) which automatically moves the calendar event to that time so in my time zone EST or GMT-5 an appointment created at 1:00pm EST would be adjusted to 6:pm GMT by Google's servers in order to ensure the correct time whether daylight savings time or standard time are in effect.


I dont think this is a "bug" because it only occurs when a Google Calendar is used in the Calendar app and Google explains exactly why they have it set up that way. The iPhone is just recognizing that change from Google's servers once the event hits them and adjusting accordingly.


If it were truly a bug this should happen with any event created not just one through Google.

Feb 1, 2015 7:56 PM in response to stevehok

Please thoroughly read the prior posts..


This is NOT a "bug" impacting only users of Google users. The problem impacts Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and likely other Email clients.


I have 4 Microsoft Office365 email accounts -- and all email accounts are impacted. This problem was created by Apple and started with the introduction of iOS 8.x. Apple is aware (now) that this is their problem.... so it is time to STOP pointing the finger at non-Apple ISP and Email providers.

Feb 1, 2015 8:05 PM in response to stevehok

Welcome to the thread. If you review previous entries, you will see that every few days, someone new shows up and basically posts the exact same thing you just posted.


There is no need to speculate about this: Apple has confirmed this is a bug in iOS.


No need to rehash, if you are curious just go a back a few pages in the thread and start reading. And if you don't feel like doing that, I can assure you it's a bug in iOS 8 and not generated by Google, because I have this bug and I don't use a single Google product for anything. My iOS devices sync to a MS Exchange server. I do use iOS 8.


When I create appointments using Outlook on my desktop computers, they stay at the correct times and don't get converted to GMT in Outlook, on my iPhone or on my iPad. When I create any appointment on any iOS device, it gets converted to GMT when it syncs over to my other device.


You use Google and I don't use Google at all yet we both have this same bug.....hmmmmm. That sort of confirms it isn't related to Google. We do both use iOS 8.....


Also, nothing has changed with the manner in which Google Calendar handles time zones. Yet there is no issue syncing to Google using pre 8.x versions of iOS...or any other mobile OS for that matter. Try it using a device using iOS 7.x. You will see that the very same appointment will remain at the correct time (i.e. the time you set it up for) on the iOS 7.x device, but that same appointment will transpose to GMT (or whatever timeszone your server's clock is set to) on the iOS 8.x device. The common factor for everyone experiencing this issue is that their devices are running iOS 8.


Then there's the many articles on the Internet about this confirming it's a bug (in Forbes etc.).


Now that you're here, you can watch the thread going forward and have deja vu when...in a few days, another new participant will show up and write essentially an identical post to the one you just wrote 🙂

Feb 1, 2015 8:29 PM in response to James Barber

This may only work for those using Google Calendar, but I had success by creating the event in Google and specifically selecting the desired time zone for the event. This action is redundant, as the default would show events in EST, but when doing this extra step iOS displayed events without extra GMT time. For events created on iOS, doing this extra step once event appears on Google removes the GMT time.


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Feb 1, 2015 8:57 PM in response to JG in SB

My apologies I do not use Gmail for my calendar I use Outlook and iCloud for my calendars with a Windows 8.1 PC and an iPhone 6 running 8.1.2 and have been unable to reproduce this issue. I am not sure if I am missing something or if this is a delayed thing. I created an event on my Phone using the Calendar app and waited for it to sync with my PC then I created an event on my PC and waited for it sync. Neither event jumped to GMT so I may be missing something.


I have a friend who had this issue with his Google calendar and that was the article that I found while trying to help him because I thought i may have been pulling the time zone from his account not his phone. After comparing his device to my own and then finding the article I thought I was only occuring with Gmail.


I did not have a chance to read the whole thread I merely posted what I did because I thought it would help.

Feb 1, 2015 9:15 PM in response to stevehok

No problem. If you are syncing with Exchange and not experiencing this bug, it means that the clock on the server equipment on which your Exchange user account resides is set to the same time zone that your device is set to. For example if you and your iOS device are in Houston, and your Exchange server is at your office in downtown Houston and its clock is set to CST, then you won't experience this bug.....until you and your iOS Device travel to a different time zone. If you come out here to California, all your appointments will transpose 2 hours ahead to CST even though you set them up for times in PST. You will set up an appointment for 2:00 PM and when it syncs over to your other iOS devices it will still show graphically at 2:00 PM but it will have "(4:00 PM CST)" under it and if you open it up, it will actually BE at 4:00 PM CST. Then if you switch the time zone to PST, it will leave the appointment at 4:00 PM which is 2 hours later than you set it up for.


Most server equipment has its clock set to GMT, and that's why this usually shows up as the "GMT Bug." There are plenty of documented instances where users are experiencing the exact same problem, but their appointments get transposed to EST, or PST. In all cases, it is confirmed that the incorrect time zone (relative to what the user expects to see based on when they input their appointments) corresponds to the clock setting on the server that hosts their subscribed calendar account.


Here's a link to a great article on this:


http://blog.appriver.com/2014/12/ios-8-calendar-events-display-dual-time-zones/


It's from November last year..... Same bug still here.... In February 2015.


Here's a particularly pertinent quote from the article for the (inevitable) next person who shows up and tries to argue why Calendars are supposed to move your appointments to different times than you set them up for:


"Calendar events should display the time zone the event was created in as determined by the client software (Outlook or the settings on your mobile device) not the time zone in which the server is housed."


You didn't argue otherwise...but others (read previous posts) have gone to great lengths trying to explain to everyone why this isn't a bug, but how calendars are supposed to work. It obviously isn't, but apparently this is not obvious to everyone.

Feb 2, 2015 2:30 PM in response to James Barber

Some have the opinion that Apple is ignoring iPhone users who have <6 and 6+. I'm a fan of Apple. All of my devices are Apple, but I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't some truth in such an opinion. I paid full price for my iPhone 5S, and it wasn't cheap - over US$800 direct to Apple. I believe the issues with <6 deserve to be addressed in a timely manner. These four month old calendar issues are frustrating. I travel - a lot - and the steps I have to take to keep my calendar straight are ridiculous for any device, let alone an Apple device. Apple, take care of your customers and service ALL issues.

Feb 2, 2015 2:36 PM in response to Sid Plait 1

Sid Plat, good theory re why Apple employees may not know about the problem, at least for a while though that doesn't mean Apple tech at higher levels shouldn't communicate & make them aware it exists. I'm not sure if I used google calendar long ago, i dont think so but not sure. Anyway for some years, I have only used the Apple calendar. Yet suddenly after replacing my iOS 5 4gs with an ios 8 phone, I began having this crazy confusing messed up GMT problem. Called apple support, was told to do a factory reset on my phone. That made no sense to me so I was unwilling to go through all that trouble & risk. I came to these forums. Unlike other people with the GMT I also had two other weird & serious calendar problems that started at the same time, one was that every new calendar entry gave me an alert 30 minutes before the event, even though I did not choose any alert for the event, and in Settings, it was set to default to NONE! But Calendar was somehow somewhere programmed to default to a 30 minute alert. Tell me that's not an iOS bug. & the other problem that started at the same time as the GMT problem is that suddenly none of my events were syncing with iCloud. No backup of my calendar. An urgent problem. Somewhere in the posts on this thread, someone mentioned that there might be some relationship to the Default Calendar setting in Settings. I had made no changes in my calendar settings when I changed to the new phone. I didn't even know there was a default calendar setting. When I looked at those settings, I found that my default calendar was the user name for my gmail address, which was/is my Apple ID, for some years. The only other option for default calendar were the various icloud calendars such as Work, Family, etc. I found that if I changed my default calendar to one of those instead of the one related to my gmail address, all three of my calendar problems went away, permanently. Since I have no real need to keep my gmail address user name as my default calendar, I changed it to an iCloud calendar & no more problems. How can this be caused by anything but an iOS bug? It can't. My daughter has always used the mac.com iCloud calendar as the default, without any awareness of this setting. She has never experienced the GMT problem & is unaware of it. So for those who can function just using the iCloud calendar as default, this wont be a problem. But in my case, I wasnt even using a third party calendar, I was just using the same calendar default I've used for years, & it was related to my Apple ID which is a gmail address, & suddenly that is no longer acceptable to the iOS

iOS 8 Calendar on iPhone showing GMT times for new events.

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