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Hi CSound1,

I don't want to get into a semantics/flame over this, but my comment was about operating systems.

And I surely don't want to annoy any of the VERY helpful people who sort out problems.

Apple has a much smaller market share than Windows in computer operating systems, which is what this thread is about.

Apple OS is about 6%, Linux about 2%, and MS has the rest.

That is what I mean't when I said small.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcust omd=0

Apple is not quite the world's largest company either: XOM and a few others would object to that statement....😉

But yes it IS big: maybe that's the problem, it's forgotten its roots.

Depending how you measure it, Apple and MS are roughly the same size, but it's comparing apples to oranges.

Apple makes a lot of hardware, and is heavily involved in things outside of computers, and especially OS now.

Whereas I'd argue MS's core business is still closer to computers OS and software.

The market capitalization (i.e "size") of the company doesn't have to have a correlation to how good they are, or how much they care about their customers.

In fact maybe too big is bad.

In fact, that's perhaps where Apple is losing the plot, in my eyes.

They have moved their focus away from computers, and are now on multi-media (iTunes, iPads, iPhones etc etc).

And yes I know Windows will run fine on MacBooks because of their Intel chipset.

However, this is a bit of a hijack of the thread, although it DOES prove my point.

I said that a good tool (i.e OS) by my definition is one where you don't need to know what it is you are using.

Like if I want to analyze some data, or write something, or make a presentation, I shouldn't have to worry if it's on Mac or MS OS.

The OS should be transparent.

But it is not.

For instance there is a big difference in how MS Office runs on Macs and on Windows.

Not for little documents, but for sure on bigger ones.

And the features are not the same.

Even on something 3rd party like Skype: the GUI is quite different in each OS.

Same for Firefox.

Why???

If it as done right on the one, why not make the other one the same???

Apple OSX and Windows are just tools: I do not want to have to be an IT expert, or need to consult one to run them.

Alan

"figures as of today".....

Yeah well, that's all on a stock market that fluctuates quite a bit.

In a few weeks who knows??

My ranking was from the 2014 Fortune 500 ranking.

I dunno if you play the markets, but it's very easy for stocks to go up or down by 10-15% in 6 months.

A 200 Billion difference might seem a lot, but for someone whose business like XOM is involving oil, and intentional markets things can fluctuate a lot.

Anyways, I never said anything about the SIZE of the companies.

That was a misunderstanding of my remark, or just perhaps my poor wording.

The thread was about operating systems, and my comment was on whether or not MS really cares about Apple.

Because MS is so much bigger than Apple: for MARKET SHARE in OS.

I never said based on some figures that are invented by big sweaty guys in baseball caps who live in New Jersey and work on the NYSE....😎

Seriously, that's like trying to argue that gold actually has intrinsic value!

But thanks for pointing out that Apple was in fact so big: until you did, I really would not have thought it was even in the Top 50, let alone Top 10.

Anyhow CSound, I'm pretty new to Mac's compared to PC's.

I bought one as an experiment when I had the freedom to do so for work purposes.

My long term Mac friends were the ones who said they were disappointed by what they saw as the general decline of Mac quality as Apple got more involved in multimedia like iTunes, iPads, iPods and the like.

And moved away from the more geeky part of the business with an OS based on Unix.

I get quite a few hassles with either system, but I find that as long as I can look up some command for Terminal, it seems easier to solve in Macs than in Windows. And I'm sure it would be even easier if I actually knew any Unix.

So far my machine is OK: I run OSX and Windows (via Parallels).

I have two drives (SSD and HDD for data).

And I have a LOT of data: around 1 TB.

Use two pretty big flat screens at home, and one at university.

Can run some pretty big data sets thru various fairly esoteric pieces of scientific software.

But it took a fair amount of fiddling to get it setup, and it's painful when it doesn't work right.

Business and no play.

Awesome.

Well, maybe I should just send over the money I've got on the markets and let you look after it....😮

You really are keen on this whole company SIZE thing, hey?

So what about the actual market share of how many desktops and laptops run MS compared to Mac OSX?

THAT is the size I was talking about.

You didn't comment on that.

I'm not saying Apple is better or worse than MS for OS.

Actually I think Mac OS is generally better than current MS OS.

Everything after XP seems pretty bad for my uses.

Actually that's an unsound argument to compare a company to a country.

A company has very little intrinsic value.

Even a resource company like XOM is pretty dependent on the countries it operates in.

And on the value of its products.

And competition from other companies, and of other competing technologies.

Look at the companies that were big deals 20 years ago and see where they are now.

Take Eastman Kodak.

Have a look at this URL, very interesting.

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/01/charts-of-the-day-creative-destruction-in-the-s p500-index/

The average life of companies in the Fortune 500 went from 50 yard in 1960 to about 15 years now.

So how much longer will Apple stay there?

Well, based on the averages, maybe another 5-10 years max?

But countries are different.

Unless they get invaded, or disappear like Atlantis, they have real intrinsic value.

Pass their own laws, citizenship, banks, currency, mines/resources/timber/fish/oil&gas etc etc.

One way might be for it to split up into smaller bits, each one more focussed on core business.

Two oilfield companies have done that recently.

NOV split it's low margin distribution business into a separate part.

And ConocoPhillips the same with its refining part to be Philips 66.

Both are multi-billion dollar companies.