iPad 2 upgrade to iOS 8 causing performance issues?

Darkahn wrote:

Being realistic about this I believe that there is no bluff here. Apple has classically cut off the older users in some way shape or form.

Either someone has given you some false information or else you're not thinking clearly on this or you are not aware of the facts of the matter ... :-) ...

The fact of the matter is that Apple is STILL SELLING the iPad 2 model right now - TODAY - in its online store. And a customer who buys it today can get a TWO-YEAR APPLECARE contract, which means Apple will back that product for another two years the SAME WARRANTY that ALL of the other iPad models get, even the brand new one of just a week or so ago!

Well here is my progress. I followed the post of Star Traveler..I restored my iPad as a NEW iPad. made sure that worked good for a day...Yes slower but I expected that but still able to use my apps that came with the operating system.

Next day SLOWLY restored ONLY the apps that I really really needed.. I mean really need (basically if i have them on the iPhone i don't need duplicates and if they are NOT made for the iPad I don't use them..sans Instagram. Made sure that worked all fine for at least a day. Then on the 3rd day I began to install all my music and pictures.

4th day restored my email accts and other stuff.

End result is that i have a working iPad that I can live with.. YES opening pictures is slower but I do have 16K in pics and Facebook is probably the slowest application to work.....I think if you do this in this method you might find the same positive results that i have..

mark

Glad to hear that.

And, just for a side note, I always do expect that the oldest models will operate the slowest of all models, just because of the older chip and the smaller RAM for those models. That is inevitable, so if you have a slowdown (and I mean in overall operation, not something "hanging" on you) ... then that's to be expected. What you won't see, overall, is a complete inability to run the operating system to the point where everything just stops or comes to an absolute crawl. If that is going on, it's not the operating system that is doing that ... it's something else going on.

I know that Apple tested the iPad 2 to make sure it could still run iOS 8, which it did, and they included it in the list of operating systems that the iPad 2 can use today. I don't imagine that this will be true for the next major upgrade. I think the iPad 2 is getting towards its "end of life" ... and it will be limited by Apple from going to the next major (full point) upgrade.

And, for those of you who do have an iPad 2 right now, as soon as you get your iPad 2 running okay ... this is a clue to SELL IT as soon as you can, or else no one is going to really want it when it is blocked by Apple from going to the next major upgrade.

Star Traveler wrote:

Darkahn wrote:

Being realistic about this I believe that there is no bluff here. Apple has classically cut off the older users in some way shape or form.

Either someone has given you some false information or else you're not thinking clearly on this or you are not aware of the facts of the matter ... :-) ...

The fact of the matter is that Apple is STILL SELLING the iPad 2 model right now - TODAY - in its online store. And a customer who buys it today can get a TWO-YEAR APPLECARE contract, which means Apple will back that product for another two years the SAME WARRANTY that ALL of the other iPad models get, even the brand new one of just a week or so ago!

No, no-one has given me false information, and I am thinking quite clearly on the issue. I have never stated that Apple is not selling or even supporting the iPad 2. All I have stated is that my iPad is 4 years old. In the current climate a 4 year old device has had a good run of life. In order to get the performance that I was used to with my iPad 2 running iOS 7, I will need to invest in new hardware. The number of people that are happy with the performance of the iPad 2 running iOS8 (from my research and experience) is certainly in the minority from the general population. I will not debate the merits of reloading the OS or anything else on the matter.

Additionally, Apple has indeed always been forward looking and has no issues cutting the cord on older systems when they deemed that the older systems were not going to keep up with where they want to see the industry move. Consider the following changes they have put out there.

1. The IBM processor architecture was abandoned in 2004

2. The Mac Pro tower below hardware revision 3,0 cannot run the operating systems beyond 10.6 (or 5, I cannot remember) because the video bus lacks a 64bit channel. This is frustrating since my 2,1 hardware has all the horsepower it needs to run the OS.

3. Rosetta was cut off within the lifespan of two operating systems, and was not even installed by default on the second OS that was compatible

4. The AppleTV version 1 with internal storage is no longer supported, and the V2+ has no storage at all. Streaming everything is not necessarily the way I want to operate.

5. My iPod touch 4th Gen cannot run the current versions of the iOS. But I CAN reload iOS 6 from Apple, as they are still signing it for the device.

4. Optical drives are not included in any current mac hardware

5. Operating systems and applications are now controlled through the App store, not by direct download

Now in no way am I implying that this is all bad. It just is. Is it inconvenient, sometimes yes.

Star Traveler wrote:

Glad to hear that.

And, just for a side note, I always do expect that the oldest models will operate the slowest of all models, just because of the older chip and the smaller RAM for those models. That is inevitable, so if you have a slowdown (and I mean in overall operation, not something "hanging" on you) ... then that's to be expected. What you won't see, overall, is a complete inability to run the operating system to the point where everything just stops or comes to an absolute crawl. If that is going on, it's not the operating system that is doing that ... it's something else going on.

I know that Apple tested the iPad 2 to make sure it could still run iOS 8, which it did, and they included it in the list of operating systems that the iPad 2 can use today. I don't imagine that this will be true for the next major upgrade. I think the iPad 2 is getting towards its "end of life" ... and it will be limited by Apple from going to the next major (full point) upgrade.

And, for those of you who do have an iPad 2 right now, as soon as you get your iPad 2 running okay ... this is a clue to SELL IT as soon as you can, or else no one is going to really want it when it is blocked by Apple from going to the next major upgrade.

It is amusing to me here that you take the same tone here in stating that the usable life of the iPad 2 is clearly in the rear view mirror, after questioning the validity of my thoughts from an earlier post.

Well said Darkahn.

Ave it Apple!!!!

My iPad was new July, 2013. I would like to have a fully - functional machine for a little longer. I am not tech-savvy so don't need the latest, greatest.

suwaneegal wrote:

My iPad was new July, 2013. I would like to have a fully - functional machine for a little longer. I am not tech-savvy so don't need the latest, greatest.

I am not entirely certain what you are getting at here. However if you have iOS 7, or even 8, and you have an iPad 2, your system will be fully functional. If you are running iOS 8 on the device it is my opinion that the system will be running at a noticeably slower rate. If you are still running iOS7 on an iPad 2, do not upgrade. You will be far happier in the long run. Also, if you ever have an issue with the OS, and you need to reload the OS, you will be forced at that point to load iOS 8.

Apple has just ripped you off. I had crashing issues with IOS 8 on my Ipod touch. I made a backup to be safe. Backups of IOS 7 restore only settings and content to 8. Apple said essentially "Too Bad." and my $250 ipod touch now sits in a drawer. I purchased it to run large language-learning applications which now do now function, Thanks to 8 and it's updates.

Thanks Apple.

Sorry for lack of clarity. I have an iPad 2 and did download OS8. I am in mourning for what I use to have In functionality - to know what is possible.

I was just trying to make the point that, although the technology was first out four years ago, some of us have relatively "new" machines - that should be supported.

JoeBlowCarpenter wrote:

Apple has just ripped you off. I had crashing issues with IOS 8 on my Ipod touch. I made a backup to be safe. Backups of IOS 7 restore only settings and content to 8. Apple said essentially "Too Bad." and my $250 ipod touch now sits in a drawer. I purchased it to run large language-learning applications which now do now function, Thanks to 8 and it's updates.

Thanks Apple.

Here I will say that the blame may not be entirely on Apple. The application that you use may need a few tweaks before running without issue on iOS8. Additionally from my experience on many devices I found that the best stability for running iOS 8 was to put my device into recovery mode and do a full reload of the OS while attached to iTunes. If you don't know how, or are unable to do this, you may want to take it to an Apple store and ask them to do it for you. When that is complete simply reload your apps and see if the app crashes as much.

suwaneegal wrote:

Sorry for lack of clarity. I have an iPad 2 and did download OS8. I am in mourning for what I use to have In functionality - to know what is possible.

I was just trying to make the point that, although the technology was first out four years ago, some of us have relatively "new" machines - that should be supported.

Thank you for the clarification. I agree with you fully, it is most unfortunate.

I would say it is entirely Apple's fault. Backups are designed to allow you to restore you computer to it's original working state. Not allowing you to remove an update that is not functioning well for the user is not okay.

I would also say that many applications that are written for IOS have a fairly small purchase base and price. Since apple does not allow people to revert to the previous version of IOS, this puts an undue pressure on "Content Providers" vs "Application Programmers" to hire new custom software to be trouble-shot, and re-written for every Ios revision. (Year?) This practice only allows companies that have fairly deep pockets to retain programmers and testers to maintain their product. This is expensive, and is very unfair in my opinion. Backward compatibilty is important.

Question for anyone...is there anybody with an iPad 2 and iOS 8 NOT having performance issues? Is this only affecting select devices, or very widespread?

To me it seems Apple messed up here. Either, iOS 8 should never have been release for iPad 2, or certainly features of iOS 8 should have been disabled for iPad 2.

The remedy seems straightforward. Either allow iPad 2 devices to downgrade to iOS 7 or fix iOS 8 by disabling whatever is causing the issues.

As a long-time user and developer, using my iPad 2 is no longer enjoyable under iOS 8.

Before IOS8 I told so many people that my iPad was the best thing I had bought for many years. A great piece of kit.

Now? Not so!

Ttotally agree with picciano. Give 7 back to the 2's!!!!!!