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Another bootcamp snafu after OSX update; please help.

Early 2014 27" iMac, i7, 3T Fusion Drive, 32G RAM, OSX & Win8.1

Problem: I updated OSX and after that I was unable to boot into Windows8.1x64 via BootCamp. I am able to run my Windows installation via Parallels (10) and I can see the Bootcamp dialogue if I request it on startup. If I try to boot into Windows either from OSX or from Bootcamp I get the following message (paraphrased): Your PC needs to be repaired, Error code 0x000000e . Any command attempted / repair attempted whether from thumbdrive or HDD loopsback to the same message. Only with a hard reboot can I return to OSX. Attempts to recover the entire drive from an Acronis 2014 sector-by-sector image created before the update fail.

My level of expertise is low.

I decided to post a question after reviewing the following excellent threads here:

Repairing Boot Camp after creating new partition

"No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key" after setting up Bootcamp

I believe I can follow them, but have not tried the solutions yet because I don't want to screw the machine up and the results of queries I make are a little different than their examples.

I include below the results of my queries beneath and thank anyone in advance for their help.

gpt show: disk0: mediasize=121332826112; sectorsize=512; blocks=236978176

gpt show: disk0: PMBR at sector 0

gpt show: disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: disk0: Sec GPT at sector 236978175

start size index contents

0 1 PMBR

1 1 Pri GPT header

2 32 Pri GPT table

34 6

40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

409640 236306352 2 GPT part - 53746F72-6167-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

236715992 262144 3 GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

236978136 7

236978143 32 Sec GPT table

236978175 1 Sec GPT header

sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 14751/255/63 [236978176 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

Starting Ending

#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - 236978175] <Unknown ID>

2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused

3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused

4: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0 - 0] unused

diskutil list

/dev/disk0

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *121.3 GB disk0

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1

2: Apple_CoreStorage 121.0 GB disk0s2

3: Apple_Boot Boot OS X 134.2 MB disk0s3

/dev/disk1

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *3.0 TB disk1

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1

2: Apple_CoreStorage 199.4 GB disk1s2

3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.1 MB disk1s3

4: Microsoft Basic Data WinOS 1.0 TB disk1s4

5: Microsoft Basic Data WinStor 997.7 GB disk1s5

6: Apple_CoreStorage 801.4 GB disk1s6

7: Apple_Boot Boot OS X 134.2 MB disk1s7

/dev/disk2

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD *1.1 TB disk2

Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s2, ...

F782AFC6-0C98-43B2-B384-C1606DDEC7C3

Unencrypted Fusion Drive

/dev/disk3

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: FDisk_partition_scheme *4.0 GB disk3

1: DOS_FAT_16 4G USB 4.0 GB disk3s1

/dev/disk4

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: FDisk_partition_scheme *31.6 GB disk4

1: Windows_FAT_32 RECOVERY 31.6 GB disk4s1

/dev/disk5

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: FDisk_partition_scheme *61.9 GB disk5

1: Windows_NTFS 64G USB 61.9 GB disk5s1

/dev/disk6

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: FDisk_partition_scheme *123.6 GB disk6

1: Windows_FAT_32 128G USB 123.6 GB disk6s1

/dev/disk7

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *282.3 MB disk7

1: Apple_HFS Parallels Access 282.2 MB disk7s1

/dev/disk9

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *3.0 TB disk9

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk9s1

2: Apple_HFS Time Machine Backups 3.0 TB disk9s2

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Posted on Sep 26, 2014 3:48 PM

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Loner T

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Posted on Sep 26, 2014 6:06 PM

On a Fusion drive, Windows can be installed only on the HDD part using a non-EFI Bootcamp method.

Please post the output of

diskutil cs list

sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1 (This is where your Bootcamp installation is).

sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

Apart from TM (/dev/disk9) and a 4GB (/dev/disk3) Flash drive(?), what are these other drives (/dev/disk4 - /dev/disk9)?

If you have created an additional partition on WinSTOR after Bootcamp was installed, that can be problematic as well.

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Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 5:22 AM in response to Loner T

Ideally yes. Keeping to half or less than half the SSD should be no problem. The HDD is not slow and the machine has 32G of RAM so executables can take advantage of that even if they are not resident on the SSD. This system is also backed by a fairly quick 50T NAS server, so space I. Itself is not a problem and I am happy to have applications on a different drive, especially is OSX will allow it.

FIrst I need to know how to nuke the fusion drive and get all its storage back, and have something from which to install OSX.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 5:55 AM in response to Banango

What do you think of the following layout?

1. Split SSD into half (60+60GB).

2. Split HDD into half (1.5TB+1.5TB).

3. SSD Part 1 + HDD Part 1 - OSX Fusion Drive.

4. SSD Part 2 - W8.1 via EFI.

5. HDD Part 2 - Windows NTFS (If ever in the future M$ is willing to come up with some variant of a "fusion", then SSDPart2+HDDPart2 can be combined).

6. Install Yosemite on OSX Fusion Drive. Create a TM destination on the 50T NAS.

7. Create a Windows backup destination (NTFS) on 50T NAS for Windows backups of OS

8. Create a Windows backup destination (NTFS) on 50T NAS for HDD Part2.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 8:32 AM in response to Loner T

Sounds very good. Don't worry about the backups and TM. I have a Time Capsule for the latter and use Acronis for multi-destination backups for Win81 and OSX.

Right now something is a bit haywire and I don't even seem to be able to boot to anything aside from OS X Recovery. I don't think I can get at Terminal from there. Anyway, let's give this a go by whatever means, please.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 8:59 AM in response to Banango

Reboot your Mac and hold Command+Opt+R (Internet Recovery) when connected to a wired internet connection. You should see a spinning globe.

Please post the output of diskutil cs list and diskutil list (just to make sure we start with the latest state).

In Internet Recovery, there is a built-in Safari that will allow you to post terminal output to this discussion.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 10:16 AM in response to Loner T

I am back into OSX. I did a Yosemite reinstall from Recovery (TM recovery failed) and hey presto in half an hour I was back in OSX with all its settings intact. So here is the current state of affairs:

CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

+-- Logical Volume Group ECE90CFD-D898-44F1-918E-5D51C5E5E994

=========================================================

Name: Macintosh HD

Status: Online

Size: 921909379072 B (921.9 GB)

Free Space: 40960 B (41.0 KB)

+-< Physical Volume E6A205D7-8549-4835-9DCA-622EDBF26FD5

| ----------------------------------------------------

| Index: 0

| Disk: disk0s2

| Status: Online

| Size: 120988852224 B (121.0 GB)

+-< Physical Volume 91A0707A-A79F-477F-ACC0-5699CA9BA58B

| ----------------------------------------------------

| Index: 1

| Disk: disk1s5

| Status: Online

| Size: 800920526848 B (800.9 GB)

+-> Logical Volume Family 3E21B386-F17F-4D47-BDAF-B372C76558A2

----------------------------------------------------------

Encryption Status: Unlocked

Encryption Type: None

Conversion Status: NoConversion

Conversion Direction: -none-

Has Encrypted Extents: No

Fully Secure: No

Passphrase Required: No

+-> Logical Volume 14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

---------------------------------------------------

Disk: disk2

Status: Online

Size (Total): 916054081536 B (916.1 GB)

Conversion Progress: -none-

Revertible: No

LV Name: Macintosh HD

Volume Name: Macintosh HD

Content Hint: Apple_HFS

/dev/disk0

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *121.3 GB disk0

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1

2: Apple_CoreStorage 121.0 GB disk0s2

3: Apple_Boot Boot OS X 134.2 MB disk0s3

/dev/disk1

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *3.0 TB disk1

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1

2: FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF 1.2 TB disk1s2

3: Apple_HFS Recovery HD 650.1 MB disk1s3

4: Apple_HFS Boot OS X 134.2 MB disk1s4

5: Apple_CoreStorage 800.9 GB disk1s5

6: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.1 MB disk1s6

/dev/disk2

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD *916.1 GB disk2

Logical Volume on disk0s2, disk1s5

14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

Unencrypted Fusion Drive

And note (below) that for whatever reason there is now a whacking great FreeSpace area....but there's also an even bigger inaccessible area of the HDD.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 10:38 AM in response to Banango

The entire SSD is in your CS volume. We need to start all over again.

1. Boot using Command+Opt+R.

2. Destroy all CS volumes/LVGs till you see two bare disks, SSD and HDD.

3. Partition SSD into two halves using disk utility and "ignore" when DU wants to fix anything. The Windows partition should be configured as Free Space for W8.1 installation.

4. Partition the HDD into two parts using disk utility and "ignore" when DU wants to fix anything.

5. Create a CS LVG using diskutil cs create and using disk0s2 and disk1s2, leaving disk1s3 for Windows non-OS files.

6. Create a CS LV "Macintosh HD" on CS LVG from step 5.

7. Install Yosemite on "Macintosh HD". Validate OSX. Use Migration Assistant, if you want to restore from a TM backup.

8. Install W8.1 on SSD Part 2 using EFI boot and Bootcamp Assistant created USB+ISO. Use Alt key to choose EFI Boot, otherwise W8.1 will not install correctly.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 6:22 PM in response to Loner T

How do I destroy the CS volumes? I got into terminal within the recovery disk, but no command i use seems to delete anything, no matter which command I use (delete, erasevolume, etc) I get messages saying I am using the wrong command, that I need to specify formats, and so forth. Point me at a basic lesson because Google isn't helping me so far. Thanks again.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 6:39 PM in response to Banango

You need to use Internet Recovery (Command+Opt+R) not Recovery HD (Command+R). Recovery HD is on your local disk.

Using what you have posted, once in Internet Recovery...

1. Delete volume Macintosh HD - diskutil cs deleteVolume 14DEDD53-880F-473C-A694-54549BCAF611

2. Delete volume group - diskutil cs delete ECE90CFD-D898-44F1-918E-5D51C5E5E994

3. This show you each bare disk, the SSD and HDD.

4. Use Disk Utility, and "Ignore" if it wants to "Fix" anything and partition the SSD into two, SSD1 (formatted as Mac OS X Extended Journaled) and SSD2 (this should be Free Space format not Mac OSX Extended Journaled).

5. Repeat step 4 for the HDD. HDD1 is FAT32 (it should begin at 0 and cannot be larger than 2TB) and HDD2 is Mac OSX Extended Journaled.

6. Post the output of diskutil list.

7. Using data from Step 6, new CS volume for OSX (SSD1+HDD2) and WindowsStor (HDD1) can be created.

8. Install Yosemite on the new CS volume.

8. Install W8.1 on SSD2 (Free Space) using EFI Boot using USB created by BA.

9. Convert HDD1 from FAT32 to NTFS when in Windows.

10. Verify OSX and Windows switching and access to HDD2 NTFS read-write.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 7:25 PM in response to Loner T

Step 5: MS-DOS (FAT) or ExFAT or FREESPACE? Those are my non-OSX options.

THanks.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 7:31 PM in response to Banango

Since the W8.1 installation will be on SSD Part2, this should be MS-DOS(FAT) which is FAT32. It will be later converted to NTFS anyway in Step 9.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 7:44 PM in response to Loner T

sorry about this, working from iPad. Not sure the SSD partition is right. Diskutil keeps doing what the second image shows when I partition SSD into 2 as you instructed.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 8:00 PM in response to Banango

May I suggest using Safari available in the Internet Recovery console to post the information? Just a bit easier even though you will have to close terminal and paste it and go back to terminal.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 8:07 PM in response to Loner T

I Tried that. IOS8 has made using this forum difficult. Using Safari I get asked for keychain password. I cannot supply one that satisfies. If I try to cancel I get endless pinwheel. Hence use of iPad.

Loner T

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Oct 22, 2014 8:15 PM in response to Banango

The DU picture looks correct. Free Space will not show as a disk, till you install W8.1. It is all right. Proceed further.

I was referring to using Safari on your Mac Recovery, not the iPad Safari. As a test, if you quit OSX Terminal, there should be a Safari icon with get help online or something similar.

Banango Author

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Oct 22, 2014 8:17 PM in response to Loner T

How do I create new CS volume for Yosemite to reside on? I have to reboot first as I gave Safari another go and it's gone pinwheel on me! Thanks again for all this help.

Another bootcamp snafu after OSX update; please help.