iPhone 6 Plus headache and migraine

The reason doctors in the U.S. don't give you much advice about it is because it's pure bunkum. None of the sites you linked to have anything to do with reputable science.

There are also numerous examples throughout history of things that people were conviced were bad for them that aren't such as night air, baths, tomatoes (thought to be a deadly poison), strenuous excercise for women (it will make a uterus fall).

Parber wrote:

I agree that the answer is to go see a doctor. The problem is that since it is not well understood in the US, they don't give much good advice on this issue. The quick answer is -- reduced exposure will help you feel better. Of course radiation from wifi and cell phones and cordless phones -- is everywhere today -- but the important factors are: proximity and strength of a transmitter and duration of your exposure. The final factor is your own general health -- if you are eating well, sleeping, exercising etc. you will likely have a better resilience than if you are exhausted, under-nourished etc.

The anecdoctal evidence is building all the time (for example, in this forum) and literally hundreds of doctors are researching the issues of non-ionising radiation today. If you don't want to beleive it's not dangerous, don't believe it -- but I don't get the need to scorn those who are suffering. No one would make fun of someone with airborne peanut allergies -- "The particles are too tiny to affect us!", "When I was growing up, not one person ever had airborne allergies!" "It's just a peanut!" But somehow, radiation -- which EVERYONE agrees is harmful at high levels -- simply cannot affect people at low levels?!?! I should add that if you want to follow the money -- there is a lot of money behind the argument that there is no harm in this kind of radiation.

There are numerous examples in history of how people used new products or "tech" that they didn't understand was harming them -- until they did understand. Romans had lead pipes for plumbing. Cigarettes were beleived to be GOOD for your health. People used to x-ray their feet at shoe stores as a cool way to measure their feet. Use of Asbestos in building. What can I say, doctors and scientists thought these things were okay -- then anecdotal evidence increased, more studies were done....and we learned!

I'm saying, first hand, that the radiation affects me -- I get almost immediate pain in my head, faster heart beat, irritability, foggy minded and occasional skin rashes. After I decrease exposure to the best of my ability for a few days -- all the symptoms reduce and then go away. I understand the need to say: "But you didn't consider...." or "It's probably something else...." But I am a reasonable person who has been living with this for 10 years. I think cell phones are amazing and I have nothing against iphones per se. They just make me sick.

Here are some sites to check out for citations of current and recent studies on Electromagnetic Sensitiivity:

Canadian site with lots of information about electromagnetic pollution: http://www.weepinitiative.org/livingwithEHS.html

British site, Powerwatch -- researching the links between electromagnetic fields (EMFs) and health risks for about 25 years : http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/health/sensitivity.asp

Time Magazine movie on Electromagnetic Hypersensitive people: http://time.com/golden-cage/

Perhaps you should consult a phrenologist?

First, a bit of background info: I've been an iPhone user for the past 4 years (less than most of you here - I'm sure). My first was the iPhone 4, then 5, then 6. I've had the 5 for two years and do not recall experiencing any eye strain - even during the initial adjustment period from the 3.5" iPhone 4 screen to the 4" iPhone 5 screen.

Now, I do understand that this is a thread for the iPhone 6 plus which boasts an additional 1.5" inches of screen, but let me describe how I've been feeling since I switched to the iPhone 6. I've had the 6 for about 2.5 months now, and stare at the screen for approx. 4 hours per day combined. I noticed significant changes in my ability to focus on objects at a distance - *note that this goes away after a good nights rest but returns after approx 20 mins of phone usage*. I tried not using my phone for a day and my eyes were not as strained and my distance focus was better. I wouldn't say I've gotten migraines, but significant eye strain - definitely.

I think this has something to do with the convergence angle of the eyes on a bigger screen rather than a hardware problem. My suggestion is to hold the screen further away from the face; even though walking around with outstretched arms is not exactly practical. The curved edges of the phone make it more difficult for our eyes to discern where the screen actually ends, thus straining the peripheral vision - holding the phone further away from the face will limit the 'infinity edge' effect.

Meg, to be honest, your comments are the reason I decided to post on this forum. I've been in the US for 7 years, and spent the 10 years prior in Europe. In Europe, politicians are not 'guided' through the decision-making process by powerful lobbies. There are very few such lobbies capable of suppressing true scientific research, which is what decisions in Europe are based on. Radiation exposure is a legitimate concern - of course the regulatory agencies have imposed SAR requirements - which, by the way, differ from country to country. The effects of microwave radiation are quite real, perhaps not in the quantities emitted during normal phone use, but in general - yes, they are real. I need not go into the details, but with that in mind and given that "normal phone use" these days is practically "all day, everyday", it is perfectly reasonable to assume some people will experience adverse effects - Please respect their opinions.

It's worth noting that radiation has an extremely long half-life and will thus accumulate in our bodies during our lifetime - we're young now, but we're the first generation to actively use a cell phone... who knows what health problems this exposure would have caused by the time we're 65. I'm just saying ...

mk3928 wrote:

In Europe, politicians are not 'guided' through the decision-making process by powerful lobbies. There are very few such lobbies capable of suppressing true scientific research, which is what decisions in Europe are based on.

I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about lobbies. No, politicians in Europe are guided in part by a rather absurd notion that things should be illegal until they can be proven to do no harm.

It's worth noting that radiation has an extremely long half-life and will thus accumulate in our bodies during our lifetime - we're young now, but we're the first generation to actively use a cell phone... who knows what health problems this exposure would have caused by the time we're 65. I'm just saying ...

You're confusing electromagnetic radiation with radioactive decay.

http://web.princeton.edu/sites/ehs/osradtraining/radiationproperties/radiationpr operties.htm

Light, microwaves, radio waves, are non-ionizing and don't accumulate in your body. It's worth nothing that even elements subject to radioactive decay don't all have extremely long half-lives. Some of them have half-lives of seconds.

It has always been recommended, even before we stared at little screens for long periods of time and read these things called books that we look up periodically and focus on something in the distance. It gives the muscles in your eyes rest from the close focusing. 🙂

Fair enough, for those who have ant doubts - please run the following Google search: " radiation accumulates from cell phone use".

mk3928 wrote:

It's worth noting that radiation has an extremely long half-life

Oh, thank you for the laugh!

Um, no. Radioactive isotopes have a half-life, and some of them have very short half-life, measured in seconds.

You would make great European bureaucrat. Instead of believing articles that are scientifically sound ignore them and tell people to Google it. If you could absorb the type of radiation emanating from cell phones then a lot of people who have spend their careers using portable two-way radios would have died from that long ago.

If you are having the trouble you describe then first you should heed Meg's advice by looking away. You use your distance vision to focus on objects close to you, not the other way around. If you are feeling relief by moving the phone away from you it is time to have a visit with your ophthalmologist.

IMO, NFC can't be the reason, it's a passive thing, meaning it's the device that you bring your phone close to that is reading the data encoded on your NFC.

That's why NFC can also be used for ID Cards.

mk3928 wrote:

Fair enough, for those who have ant doubts - please run the following Google search: " radiation accumulates from cell phone use".

And if I do an internet search on "first hand accounts of alien abductions" or "morgellons", I'll get lots of hits, too. What does that prove? It's not enough to just search for something. You have to use something called "critical judgement" to evaluate what you find. It helps to have some basic science and math literacy (especially statistics), something sadly lacking. People find it easier to believe scaremongering news stories or anything that enables them to avoid taking personal responsibility (e.g. get yourself to a doctor). I understand the appeal of the easy explanation rather than doing the hard work of understanding some difficult concepts. But, sometimes, it's necessary.

Based on the quality of scientific research from Princeton, they are what I would consider a reasonably reliable source of scientific information. Physics is an area in which they have a very good reputation. The article I referenced should be comprehensible for someone with a high school reading level.

OK guys, just remember me in a few years. And TJBUSMC1973 thanks for being mature.

Here you go:

http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/cellphones

http://patimes.org/investigating-cell-phone-radiation-exposure/

.... just going down the page. Now please excuse me I have more important things to do. Have a nice day

mk3928 wrote:

http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/cellphones

Did you read that article?

Although there have been some concerns that radiofrequency energy from cell phones held closely to the head may affect the brain and other tissues, to date there is no evidence from studies of cells, animals, or humans that radiofrequency energy can cause cancer.

That's from section 4 which cites numerous reputable studies showing no link between cell phone use and cancer.

Of the "expert organizations" cited, only one, WHO indicated much concern. Their concerns are based on "limited evidence" and seem to fall under the category of we can't proof it's 100% safe so let's call it dangerous.

Thank you for providing an additional link that proves my points.

Best of luck.

mk3928 wrote:

OK guys, just remember me in a few years. And TJBUSMC1973 thanks for being mature.

Here you go:

http://m.cancer.gov/topics/factsheets/cellphones

http://patimes.org/investigating-cell-phone-radiation-exposure/

.... just going down the page. Now please excuse me I have more important things to do. Have a nice day

Don't forget your tinfoil hat.

I just bought an iPhone 6 a few days ago and am having similar symptoms to yours. Actually, the first time I looked at the iPhone 6 on display, I had an immediate headache, but I thought my eyes just needed to adjust. I turned off the Bluetooth since reading these comments and it seems to have helped a bit, but not completely. I really like this phone, but may need to return it. I had an iPhone 4 before this with no issues.

I am having the same problem with my iphone 6 plus. Have used it for one week + and experienced headaches almost everyday . I put the phone really far away from me now. Even feel the zapping on my neck when i just hold it.

The SAR level of Iphone 6 is just 0.1 below the SAR limit of 1.6W/kg!

http://www.saferemr.com/2014/09/iphone-6-sar-radiation-levels-and.html

https://www.apple.com/legal/rfexposure/iphone7,1/en/

I think will have to sell this phone because i can't use it...although i really like it...

destiney8 wrote:

I am having the same problem with my iphone 6 plus. Have used it for one week + and experienced headaches almost everyday . I put the phone really far away from me now. Even feel the zapping on my neck when i just hold it.

Are you a doctor? If ou are not, go see one. You do not know why you are getting headaches. You have made an asumption that it is your phone. Constant headaches can be a sign of a serioius medical problem.

It is not possible feel the "radiation" from your phone "zapping" you.