Help!! Auto save question!

Hi, was working on a project when my father turned the power off. I hadn't saved the project and I don't have access to the computer rn. Keeping me up worrying if the project has saved. Could someone help me? Thanks

Logic Pro X, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 9, 2014 2:39 PM

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Oct 10, 2014 9:55 AM in response to TheDom4224

Here is a graph from my book "Logic Pro X - How it Works" that shows the Autosave concept. Everything that you do in your Project since the last manual save will be stored in a separate folder inside the Project file so nothing gets lost, regardless if it is a crash or some other higher powers like your dad turning off the power (I'm a dad myself and I had to use that parental privilege a few times myself, although it was to stop Minecraft and not Logic ).

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When you start up the "interrupted" Project again, you will be prompted with two options. Make sure to choose "Auto-saved". This will apply all the unsaved changes when opening the Project.

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Hope that helps


Edgar Rothermich

http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

'I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.'

Oct 11, 2014 10:04 AM in response to Eriksimon

Eriksimon wrote:


And this is an LP X feature, or an OS feature? Or both? Would what I said still be true for Logic 9 in Mavericks?


This is a LPX feature. They changed the file structure of a Project file to be a Package file where it stores away all those goodies (Autosave, Backup, Alternatives, Media Browser files, etc).


BTW, this is a typical Apple move. Taking the time with a feature and making it better instead of rushing it out in a "me too" move. We asked for autosave in Logic for years. Other DAWs had it for years. If you think about it, it wouldn't be so difficult to make that feature possible, you actually could do it yourself with a simple script. But remember, other autosave features just automatically saved your "whole" project set by a specific time interval. Two problems with that. It was a trade off. First of all, you were still vulnerable between the autosave depending how long you set the interval (5min, 10min, etc). And, you always saved the entire Project, which could take time with bigger Projects and could be interruptive when the save happens while you are recording. So overall, autosave yes, but not very good.

The new LPX solution with those incremental backups is much more efficient and elegant. This is a concept used in databases where you always enter data "hot", they are written to the file as you make the changes. They introduced it in Final Cut pro X before and now in LPX and if you think about it, these apps are databases after all, all your recordings edits of Events, Regions, etc., these are all time-stamped entries into a database with attributes (metadata). You just constantly change those data entries and LPX constantly saves those database entries.


Autosave + Backup

The real power comes in with the combination of the new Backup and Autosave features, another overlooked but powerful feature. Like a built in "Save as Copy". Here is my new LPX workflow: Usually I don't use the save command anymore. I work in Logic maybe for an hour without saving (I know that sounds scary but it is autosaved). I save a Project when I finished a major step (recording, editing) that I might come back to. All those special cornerstones, (the manual saves) are now saved as Backup FIles (up to ten) and you can use them to revert the Project to any of those stages, even go back and forth if you want to look up some edit you did (little trick: use copy paste to bring back elements, i.e. Regions, Events, of the paste without restoring).


Here is a diagram my book where I explain that workflow:

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Hope that helps


Edgar Rothermich

http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

'I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.'

Mar 6, 2015 8:44 AM in response to claudesternum

claudesternum wrote:


I accidentally clicked to go to the manually saved version

You have understand that Autosave and Backups are two different things.

When you start a new Project or after a Save command, Logic automatically saves every step you did in Logic in a temp folder. When you save your Project, that temp folder with that data get reset (erased) and the process starts from scratch. The fallback here is that every save command also saves the previous previously saved Project as a Backup.


However. if you shut down a Project without saving, that Autosave temp folder is still there and Logic realizes that when you launch that Project. At that moment it gives you that Dialog Window, to use the Autosave version for the latest (manually) saved version. If you choose "manually", you tell Logic to delete the data in the Autosave folder - it's gone!

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