Server 3.2.1 Upgrade options after Yosemite

Server 3.x.x isn't compatible with Yosemite, hence the need to upgrade to Server 4. I am leaving Mavericks on my mac mini until I have time to deal with the server 4 upgrade. The client macs all have Yosemite

A guy in another thread just talked with Apple Support.

If you want the OS X server for Yosemite you need to buy it again.

If you're an Apple Developer, it's a free download

This realy *****, they should have tell us of this uncompatibility before !

I only bought OS server 1 month ago and of course they'd like me to buy it again. If some one in Apple is following(as if they aren't)create an update for us!!

It has been the standard norm that with each release of OS X, a new version of Server was required. However, it would be good if that were explicitly mentioned somewhere.

Bryan Dulock

ACN

Houston, TX

I use Server 3.x on Maverick. I can not upgrade to Yosemite, do not install it, just download it. I need to uninstall Server 3.x to install Yosemite? I can not even install server 4 because I have not installed Yosemite! If I trash Server 3.x, and then install Yosemite and Server 4, you know if the configurations will be saved?

Giorgio

On my Mac Mini I upgraded to Server 3.2.2, then upgraded to Yosemite without realising the 2 weren't compatible.

Now my Macbook Air won't back-up to my MacMini because the server won't open in Yosemite,

Does anyone know how to do the back up's for remote computer, without having to pay the $24.95 to upgrade to Server 4.0 (Apple looks like they have people over a barrel without fully explaining the incompatability)

Blatant rip-off from Apple. Our school installed Macs in every classroom and with the implementation of our Apple Server it seems like we were moving forward. Unfortunately Apple don't seem to have all the answers everyone believes they do. We've had problem after problem after updating the server app time and time again with us often having to set it up all over again. Doesn't do this with Windows at all and I've lost all confidence in Apple and their support. Now they expect us to pay for a whole new version after buying it once already???? They must be kidding. I was so disappointed in Apple to hear that we have to pay for a new version of the Server App.

I'll be phasing out our Apple hardware and will return to Windows, the effort is simply not worth the cost and quite honestly we can do better without them.I have no faith in them and am tired of having to go through the same debacle each time we update the software. The funny thing is the view is shared by all staff at the school too, they have no confidence in having to suffer through the continuous interruptions to their teaching day.

It's a slap in the face, especially with having been sold the notion of how great Apple would be in our school - Apple for Education - what an absolute joke.

Thanks, but never again Apple. The networking aspect within a school environment is a high maintenance one at that. Poor ol Steve will be turning in his grave. I'll be writing of my experiences in the respective teaching forums, hopefully others will steer clear of this troublesome and expensive affair after having seen what we've gone through. Thanks for the info some of you have provided, it helped make things very clear for us.

To my knowledge you are not required to purchase a new version of server software unless you choose to upgrade to Yosemite. And if you can't afford $20, you probably should not upgrade your server to Yosemite.

No one is being ripped off and it is wrong of you to say so. Performing an OS upgrade on a server entails knowing the hardware and software requirements ahead of time. This is standard practice in the IT field.

Bryan Dulock

ACN

Houston, TX

$20 is a blatant ripoff? Windows servers etc would be cheaper would they?

If you can't live with Server issues, you're right to move on - it's no good if it won't work for you. But to call $20 for a full server upgrade a ripoff is just wrong

Totally agree,... the outrage here really has me puzzled.

I had the same problem and contacted the App Store support concerning the disparition of Server from the purchase liste since I updated to Yosemite.

Service told me that it was a known and generalized problem that their techniciens are trying to solve. They have no fix for the moment but they will get back to me as they have more information.

Here is the original message in French:

"[..] Il s’agit d’un problème connu et général et nos techniciens l’examinent. Pour le moment on attends une solution definitive de leur part. Vous recevrez un courrier électronique dès que nos recherches auront progressé et que des informations supplémentaires seront disponibles. [...]"

I'll keep you posted

Allow me to alleviate your confusion:

Hint: It's not about the price of buying the server again at $20 (which is dirt cheap).

It's about the fact that the Apple update system tells you an upgrade to Yosemite is "free!" and then when you put your trust in them and upgrade, you find that your very important server software is disabled! AND you have to pay to get it working again!

I assume you are not running a system-critical server yourself, or the problem with this would be self-explanatory. When a company tells you to go ahead and upgrade, and gives no warning about what software is incompatible, especially when it is one of the main critical applications a customer would be likely to use (a server!) that is irresponsible at best...and just a ploy to force you to buy software at worst.

Yes, it's always good to "trust no one" and research everything before doing upgrades on a server, and of course some responsibly rests with the admin who is doing the upgrade, but Apple likes to give the impression that only windows users need to watch out for this sort of thing.

Bottom line: A simple notice of what CURRENTLY INSTALLED software will NOT BE COMPATIBLE with the OS upgrade and WILL NEED TO BE PURCHASED AGAIN would be the least Apple could do. A VERY easy thing to accomplish.

Note to those who are wondering:

Before upgrading to Yosemite:

- Update to the latest version of the Server application for your current OS.

- Reboot. (and don't uninstall your current server version)

- Upgrade to Yosemite.

- Buy the Latest OSX Server from apple and install it.

- Run the new OSX Server from the Applications menu.

- It will look at your old server settings and services and upgrade them and convert them to work. (at least that is my experience)