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Q: remove itunes 12

How do I downgrade/revert to iTunes 11 from 12.  I am, fortunately, running OS 10.8.5  (Mavericks and Yosemite just suck)

MacBook Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 18, 2014 9:07 AM

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  • by Xyzzy42,Solvedanswer

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Oct 18, 2014 1:03 PM in response to username…why…999
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    Oct 18, 2014 1:03 PM in response to username…why…999

    Use AppZapper or AppDelete to remove. Then download and install iTunes 11.

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    username…why…999 username…why…999 Oct 18, 2014 1:20 PM in response to Xyzzy42
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    Oct 18, 2014 1:20 PM in response to Xyzzy42

    This works, more instructions/detail.

    how to get itunes 12 to be normal?

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    username…why…999 username…why…999 Oct 18, 2014 2:22 PM in response to username…why…999
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    Oct 18, 2014 2:22 PM in response to username…why…999

    iTunes 11.4 is at:

    iTunes 11.4 for OS X 10.6

  • by Xyzzy42,

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Oct 19, 2014 9:59 AM in response to username…why…999
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    Oct 19, 2014 9:59 AM in response to username…why…999

    Take a look at this thread. It's long, but it may help you.

    Re: Not impressed! No edit info, no library management!

     

    And here:

    iTunes 11 *****, can I revert to 10.x

     

    What I ended up doing (note: I had already done the steps in the "...not impressed" thread above).

     

    Uninstall iTunes 12 with AppZapper or AppDelete or similar.

    Uninstall iBooks as above.

     

    Delete these files:

     

    1. /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BookKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.BKAgentService.xpc

     

         (Note: you may need to force quit this service in Activity Monitor. Check to be sure it's not running.)

     

    2. /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/BookKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.iBooksX-SecureUserDefaults.xpc

     

    3. /Users/*your home folder name*/Library/PDF Services/Add PDF to iBooks (ignore if file doesn't exist)

     

    Restore your previous iTunes Media folders from backup.

     

    Download iTunes 11.4 installer at http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1774?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

     

    Open iTunes 11.4.dmg file.

     

    Use Pacifist to install, check use administrative privileges; choose replace at all prompts. https://www.charlessoft.com

     

    Reboot computer.

     

     

    So far, it looks as it did in Mavericks. I haven't tried to sync i-devices yet, though.

     

    If you don't have a backup of your media folders, that first message thread should help you.

  • by Xyzzy42,

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Oct 19, 2014 12:28 PM in response to Xyzzy42
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    Oct 19, 2014 12:28 PM in response to Xyzzy42

    Update.

    .

    I was able to sync to my iPhone with no errors, though I did have to connect via USB due to the highly flaky wifi issues in Yosemite.

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    username…why…999 username…why…999 Oct 21, 2014 8:56 AM in response to Xyzzy42
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:56 AM in response to Xyzzy42

    Thanks!

    Its seems as if you upgrade to Yosemite and iTunes 12 you are hosed.  The only way would be to remove 12, boot from an external disk to remove Yosemite, install Mavericks or Snow Lion, then install iTunes 11.4.  Would have to back up the whole disk beforehand just to be safe.

  • by Xyzzy42,Helpful

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Oct 21, 2014 9:02 AM in response to username…why…999
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:02 AM in response to username…why…999

    Not really hosed...just a little irritated. Several schools of thought on this issue.  I can attest to being able to remove 12 and reinstall 11.

  • by Waldos71,

    Waldos71 Waldos71 Oct 24, 2014 2:11 AM in response to username…why…999
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    Oct 24, 2014 2:11 AM in response to username…why…999

    Hello,

    I tried to downgrade to itunes 11, but when I run it, it says me that the library as been made with a more recent version of itunes, so I must upgrade to the 12 to read it.

  • by Waldos71,Helpful

    Waldos71 Waldos71 Oct 24, 2014 2:34 AM in response to Waldos71
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    Oct 24, 2014 2:34 AM in response to Waldos71

    Ok, just try again with pacifist, it works. but you must take your previous library in the itunes media folder.

    Don't understand what apple was thinking with that Itunes 12 design.

    Fonts are to smalls, the timeline on the border of the window… All of this is just ugly.

     

    Instead of trying to improve the design of an application that is great, an resulting in an application that's ugly, they shoul try to implement some things like "beaTunes" in Itunes. That would be much more appreciable.

  • by R B Oliveros,

    R B Oliveros R B Oliveros Nov 6, 2014 9:27 AM in response to Waldos71
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    Nov 6, 2014 9:27 AM in response to Waldos71

    Newly installed iTunes 11.4 hangs. Running OSX 10.9.5 on 13" mid 2012 MacBook Pro. I detest iTunes 12; it won't even recognize my iPod.

    I used AppDelete to remove 12, downloaded 11.4 dmg fresh, installed it. It didn't hang at first (I don't think), but I was worried about the library files & replaced iTunes Library.itl and iTunes Music Library.xml with older versions. Now 11.4 just hangs when I start it up. I've redeleted & reinstalled, but that didn't help. I guess I'll just remove the library files & hope it'll re-create them. ??? Any suggestions, feedback will be greatly appreciated.

  • by Xyzzy42,

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Nov 6, 2014 10:47 AM in response to R B Oliveros
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    Nov 6, 2014 10:47 AM in response to R B Oliveros

    You can't just install 11.4. There are remnants of 12.0 that don't get replaced on install.

     

    Download Pacifist from charlessoft.com and install it. Then open the 11.4 dmg file but don't install. Open Pacifist, and then drag the pkg installer in the dmg window into it. You can then force a proper 11.4 install, choosing the options to (1) use administrator permissions and (2) to replace all files. It's really important that you do it this way.

     

    Go back up to my first post in this thread. Pacifist is the key here

  • by Xyzzy42,

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Nov 6, 2014 10:50 AM in response to R B Oliveros
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    Nov 6, 2014 10:50 AM in response to R B Oliveros

    Also, question: do you have a backup if your mudic folder? You might have to restore the .itl file from it. Alternatively, I've heard you can just delete the existing .itl file and then open iTunes, but I haven't tried it. You might also find the old .itl file in your music folder in a sub folder called Previous iTunes Library.

  • by R B Oliveros,

    R B Oliveros R B Oliveros Nov 6, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Xyzzy42
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    Nov 6, 2014 1:11 PM in response to Xyzzy42

    Thank you! iTunes 11.4 is now installed & seems to be working. I haven't used Pacifist in many years; thanks for the details. I pulled in older .itl & Music Library files. However, my iPod still isn't recognised. I tried 3 different cables the other night; none worked. I'll continue to experiment. Again, thank you very much.

  • by Xyzzy42,

    Xyzzy42 Xyzzy42 Nov 6, 2014 2:18 PM in response to R B Oliveros
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    Nov 6, 2014 2:18 PM in response to R B Oliveros

    I'm not versed in the iPod connection issues...wish I could help. Realizing this might be difficult, but have you tried resetting the iPod to factory defaults and then trying to connect it to iTunes from a clean state?

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