Report on the NEW iOS 8.1 Revision Today

I think (opinion) you are right. Some contributors to the discussions about iPad 2 problems with iOS 8 have been abusive of you. A moderator of this board should probably have suppressed posting that used expressions like "idiot". That is abusive language and most probably extremely unfair. In fact you have troubled yourself to provide a series of links to information that has enabled me personally to take the opportunity to derive some benefit from a frustrating hiccup, as Apple has no doubt tackled a very complex upgrade. It would not have been made less complex by its obviously conscious decision to include our earlier iPad model in the upgrade. On the way to becoming, is it, the biggest company in the world, one would learn some very basic lessons about, in this case, how to handle people who demand acknowledgements that they and those like them will then be able to use to make further attacks.

The problems I've had have been much more limited than many contributors have reported. I assume this must mean that there are many iPad 2 users who like me are getting by well enough to be quite patient. It seems to me that particular configurations and how different people happen to use their iPads must be a major factor in regard to who encounters what problems.

Hi There All, My Last Contributions to this thread as clearly people with greater reslience than mine are at work.

Firstly, I must say that these last two posts do tend to suggest / minimise the effect that the 3G connectivity issues had quite broadly on a very, very large number of iPad 2 users who chose to upgrade to the iOS 8 Gold release. I struggle to believe that it was "variations" within their device that contributed to their particular issue. The general rule of thumb commercially is that 1% of the customers affected by an issue complain, so that those 1% need to be listened to carefully, because they are your most important customers - there's another 99% of unhappy customers out there silently getting more frustrated with your product.

Star Traveler, you happen to agree with Apple's stance on acknowledging issues and I'm happy to agree that this may well not be the appropriate place to discuss them. I'll choose a more general discussion group to do so.

However I'm fascinated that you play the Terms and Conditions / Forum Etiquette card, but would ask whether you have considered your own responses throughout the morning and whether they satisfy the "be polite, constructive and stay on topic" point in the Etiquette document. The Tyres analogy was irrelevant and patronising and the repeated "Get Over It" responses - well I just don't think they are a polite way of responding to other's opinions.

First, I have expressed this directly to Apple support. Two of the primary reasons that a person buys an Apple "anything" is usability and user experience. In the case of Apple many buyers are not technophiles. My 82 year old father is a perfect example. The iPad was a perfect solution for someone who has zero technology background. Thankfully, I was able to make sure he didn't run the OS upgrade.

When any company does an operating system "push" (not a release that you "pull") there is an expectation that is will run as well or better than the previous OS. If not, you make it available as a pull not a push. This would have eliminated the issues many people are experiencing with their iPads.

I'm still trying to figure out why it got pushed out to the iPad 2. I may have overlooked something when I looked at the release notes, but as far as I know I didn't see any warnings about a sub-standard user experience if installed. I find it really hard to believe that iOS 8 was only tested on a stripped down iPad2.

On the plus side some friends who did download the original iOS 8 have seen marked improvement after the latest patch release.

David,

I think how you form your responses can be very helpful in dialog. If you truly are attempting to be helpful, avoid statements such as "deal with it". Personally, I wouldn't spend too much effort worrying about posters abusing the forum Terms of Service; let moderators worry about that.

In regards to all the complaints about 3G dropping and sluggishness after the upgrade; I would say that, at least for me, pointing fingers at incompatible apps may not be the right direction. I had every single app completely closed; then opened Apple apps such as Safari, etc. and still experienced the sluggishness. And as some have mentioned, iPad 2 in the Apple Store with 8.x was exhibiting issues in Safari. This upgrade was probably stretching it for this model; and should not have been considered eligible. Having to disable various features to make it 'almost' as it was before the upgrade is frustrating; hence the frustration represented on these forums. Even if a posting looks to be complaining; they are looking for answers, even if they are grasping at straws. Hopefully the Factory Restore will help most, as it did me.

My iPad 3 runs a bit better on 8.1 but the non-retina mini from my girlfriend hangs a lot. Also on default apps like calendar. Killing the app usually works though.

This whole 8 thing sounds a lot like "too much, too soon" to me. Lots of friends are complaining. Which is new to me. I used to notice only virtual complaints from peeps on the internet...

I'm so frustrated with the performance of my iPad Air after iOS 8.1 update. I can no longer jump to iOS 7. with all this frustration I just wiped everything and then did an iOS 8.1 restore. After setting up as new iPad nothing has changed. It was slow again. Then restored it again...and again...this time i choose not to enable iCloud drive. And there you go.....no more stutter!!!! Safari does well. Everything seems smooth till now. For me at least this solved my problem with low performance. I don't really know what really is wrong with iCloud drive. May be my network is weak or something else. But it did Work for me. And when iCloud drive is enabled my iPad used to stay hot like as if it is working hard For something. And now, nothing like that.

I gotta try this as soon as I come home. I'll let you know if it works here, too!

Thanx for that hint!

YES! It helped! I'm so happy! 10 seconds to start photos on iOS 8.0 after the update 8.1 still 8s and now it's 3s if cloud drive is deactivated!

I Have to say that I'm trying this after another factory reset and manually downloading apps rather than a backup and it seems to be working!

woohoo! Fingers crossed that I get my smooth running iPad back

😢 Got too excited too soon, 3 downloaded apps later and back to square one.

thought it might be Dropbox but after deleting that there is still no improvement in performance

Turned iCloud drive off on the mini. Opened Safari and it froze after loading a page. New record.

Might work for others though...

I have deactivated iCloud drive. Still active ist "Photos" and myPhotostream. I thought it is still syncing to my iPad but not all pictures are there now. This should not happen if only iCloud drive is deactivated?