Parentheses for negative numbers in Excel 2011

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I've been using Excel for Mac 2011 since it came out. Up until I updated to Yosemite, formatting negative numbers with parentheses appeared in the drop down menu, i.e., right click to get format cells, click "number" tab on top, click "number" on left. There is a dialog as to how you want negative numbers formatted. Parentheses used to be an option but no more. I attached a screen shot. Help!User uploaded file

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.3), 2.7GHz Quad, Core I5, 2x4GB

Posted on Oct 22, 2014 4:13 AM

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Posted on Nov 20, 2014 7:03 AM

Same issue here with Excel 2011, problem started with the Yosemite installation and was not fixed with 10.10.1 nor the latest Microsoft update.


It's a big problem for accountants!


On the Microsoft forum this gentleman replied with a workaround but it's a hassle to have to do this for each new spreadsheet.


JonathanBuhacoff replied on


If you go to the dialog shown in Phillip's post and select "Custom" on the left side, you can enter this to get the parenthesis back:


$#,##0;[Red](-$#,##0)



Or this to use square brackets:


$#,##0;[Red]"["-$#,##0"]"


The format means use $#,##0 for positive numbers and use [-$#,##0] in red for negative numbers.


You could remove the hyphen too and just do this:


$#,##0;[Red]"["$#,##0"]"


I hope Apple takes note and pushes a fix for us.

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Jan 17, 2015 4:38 PM in response to gsusser

Same problem here since upgrading to Yosemite. I've left feedback on Apple's site. Note that this feature works fine in Numbers, so Apple will likely expect the applications to adapt to a changed API.


Thanks jmgathg for the workaround, and also note that Excel offers the most recently used custom codes in the list under Custom, so for most people it shouldn't be much of a hassle unless you forget to go look under Custom.

Mar 10, 2015 10:29 PM in response to EricNelson

I don't seem to have that option. I have a CURRENCY and CURRENCY [0] in that ribbon. And neither work. And when I try to modify like you said I just get back to the same formatting options, none of which have negative numbers in a parentheses.


The best I can do it cut and special paste formatting from an older spreadsheet that does have the parentheses.


Your "Currency 2" must be a saved style from before the problem arose in Yosemite, so your solve is acting in a way like my cut and paste option.

May 12, 2015 3:40 PM in response to REA CPA

I just updated to OS 10.10.3 from 10.10.2. The problem is still there. This is extremely inconvenient for accountants and finance people.


Another couple alternatives for now:

1. After you do the custom format for the whole sheet, you can save it as a template in Excel. Then just use this "customized" template to create new excel file.

2. You can also set the custom format with other formatting attributes as a Style in this customized template, so it is there when you want to format new sheets in the same file.

Mar 28, 2015 12:21 AM in response to kdeemer

I am based in the UK and have experienced this problem for ages, even before Yoselmite.

When I visit the US from time to time and go to an Apple store, I have looked and saw that the negative brackets worked.

However, under UK language, it has never worked.


Seems we are stuck with this problem now.

For me, this is definetely an OSX issue not Microsoft

Apr 9, 2015 8:16 PM in response to jkittrell

Same issue using the 2016 Preview. I found a support article for the Windows version on the same problem which says its when your computer is set up to a non-English language. So I tried switching from English to English U.S. but that didn't work.


Even if it is an Apple problem, it seems like MS could fix this quiet easily. Going to send it as a feedback problem.

May 25, 2015 6:50 AM in response to Clubnev

Update - I have a Mac Air with Bootcamp. I have this same problem with Open Office's spreadsheet on Windows 8 on the mac. So this must be a Yosemite problem. Really surprised I would have this on Windows 8 also. I read on other forums that all spreadsheet programs are having this problem.


Apple does not want to enter into the Finance/accounting market; that is obvious.

Feb 17, 2015 9:38 AM in response to gsusser

I have tried Jonathan's work-around to get excel to recognize negative numbers, but every time I use any of his solutions Excel flips me into 'currency' format. I am very sure you all have gotten them to work well, but I am new to macbook pro after about a decade long absence.


I never had to use parenthesis to distinguish negative numbers on macs in the distant pat, so this is all rather foreign to me.

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