How can I set my privacy tighter with Siri and Dictation?

It only matches what I quoted. There is a lot more in the phone.

I also had a lot more in my original post but Apple censored and then deleted it because they decided it was a rant.

Apple's policy in my phone's privacy policy says a lot more.

Apparently from your answer I am stuck with a massive invasion of my privacy? Are you so very comfortable with having everything you say recorded? What if you worked in a high security industry?

I also asked if this was in effect prior to this latest update or not.

What I had to omit. Check your phone's privacy page and compare to apple's web page I linked ( Settings > General > Keyboard >Dictation & Settings > General > Siri) and click on the About Siri or Dictation privacy...

It goes on to tell me I can restrict Siri's and Dictation's ability completely by turning it off.

It tells me that my personal information, voice recording and other things collected may be retained for a period of time to generally improve Siri, Dictation an functionality in other Apple products and services. <-- this right here contradicts the paragraph I quoted by saying it indeed DOES use it for other Apple things. Also, HOW LONG is this "period of time"?

If I want to 'erase' this information I can simply turn off then on Siri and or Dictation and lose what I have had recorded on me. THIS fully restarts the "learning" process all over again and in turn NEGATES all the stuff it learned in the past. The KICKER is that since apple "retains what it collects for a period of time" HOW does turning the services off truly "erase" what was taken in the past?

Why can't the learning process be done directly on the phone itself without it being RECORDED and STORED by Apple?

Now, before you go off and say how Apple respects my privacy, I know all of that. I just don't believe or trust it since all this iCloud hacking has been happening lately AND I am VERY conscious of what I put "out there" for all to see and take. I don't use social networking either due to the massive invasion of my privacy. Plus I find it silly. I will not be reduced to a low level of conversation where the simple "like" is the equivalent of a reply.

Meg St._Clair wrote:

Twitchin Kitten wrote:

OK First of all, Apple needs to stop with the restriction of what you can say in posts. They keep deleting my stuff without allowing my QUESTION to be answered.

And if you can't abide by the Terms of Use to which you agreed when you signed up, perhaps you should consider using another forum with less restrictive terms. iLounge.com is not bad.

Submit your feedback to Apple here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback

Or, use the Contact Us link at the bottom right of every page form further options to let Apple know how you feel. This is a user-to-user technical support forum so you're problem is outside the scope of what anyone here can do to help.

And yes, this has always been the case with Siri.

Meg, thank you for the forum link. I'll definitely look into that.

Will send feedback.

So if this was always the case, how come today my phone started with the pop ups? I had been using Siri and Dictation all along without anything popping up telling me about this stuff.

DeanHoll wrote:

HI Twitchin,

they have now censored me as well,

i have only just upgraded from a 3Gs which had some kind of usable dictation that was not Siri based.

it would seem no one here at the Apple forum shares the same opinion, so in conclusion I am glad i have found at least 1 other person who values privacy.

however i dont think theres any point in trying to open up a debate when as you habe mentioned it is totally one sided due to monitering and censorship.

great great products unfortinately linked with a kind of software Fascism :-)

Dean feel free to come chat with me on my forum - you should be able to see the link in my profile. I don't dare post the url here for fear it will be censored. If you can't find a url in there, just google my username.

I can handle the Siri nonsense but my big issue is every other Apple developed app is asking for my personal info and the fact they store it.

James Ward4 wrote:

From that comment I would assume that you have no rule and wouldn't dream of "censoring" a user. However, that doesn't seem to be the case: http://twitchinkitten.com/thread-2-post-51953.html#pid51953

The ultimate irony (or hypocrisy).

Wrong. I wouldn't delete the post. I don't pre-approve posts. Topics are often 'derailed' without reprimand. I think my 'rules' are pretty lenient - no trolling and no racism and no kiddie ****. You went right to the rules without looking around. Keep your name calling to yourself, you haven't a clue.

I never asked to be exempt. I was pointing out that the censorship seems to only be regarding negative comments about the products. My original post that was censored was pointing out things that are not obviously known to all - and were actually part of my questions. Funny this thread has come completely derailed and it's not got anything to do with my original question anymore but these off topic posts remain.

bethr1030 wrote:

I came across this discussion after searching for information re: iPhone dictation privacy. I just upgraded to ios 8 and was dismayed when I tapped the little microphone on the keyboard to have a disclaimer come up about enabling dictation. I know past ios versions did monitor/keep Siri requests and I tended to keep those to a minimum. But I don't believe (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the older 'voice to text' messages were stored by apple. I really dislike the idea of having the things I'm 'dictating' being stored by Apple so I haven't enabled it. I miss the voice to text option, but after reading the "learn more" details, I'm just not at a point where I can enable it.

So, what options are out there for me to dictate or use voice to text on the iPhone without agreeing to share my verbal dictation with Apple? Is reverting to a prior ios an option? Other apps ? Other suggestions?

Thanks much.

Bingo Beth! This is what I was upset about. WHY does Apple need my DICTATION? Texts are my phone plan.

You cannot revert back to a different iOS.