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will a samsung 850 pro ssd work with yosemite?

Christopher Breen has an article today in Macworld explaining that most SSDs will not work with Yosemite. To paraphrase Mr. Breen, Apple's TRIM technology doesn't work with third party SSDs, and, while you could use Trim Enabler to make TRIM work with your drive in Mavericks, Trim Enabler modifies kext files and Yosemite will not run with modified kext files. The only workaround is to globally disable kext signing, which is not recommended for security reasons. Has anyone had any experience with this issue? I just purchased a third party SSD for my MBP. Thank you for any input.


Cheers, Peter

Posted on Nov 19, 2014 12:47 PM

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Posted on Nov 19, 2014 5:45 PM

Pram wrote:


Christopher Breen has an article today in Macworld explaining that most SSDs will not work with Yosemite.

That's not what it says. SSDs will work with Yosemite, the only thing that won't work is enabling third-party TRIM support. The SSD will boot and the SSD will work and it will be fast; having TRIM enabled is not even remotely a requirement. TRIM is just a housekeeping routine that is generally thought to be desired, but there's even debate on that.


The part of the Macworld article about not booting should only happen if you 1) enabled TRIM, 2) disabled kext signing, and 3) reset NVRAM, which re-enables kext signing and therefore blocks access to the hard drive you need to boot from. But if you didn't do 1-3 your Mac will boot into Yosemite just fine.


Some SSD brands do not require TRIM and some like OWC don't even recommend it because their SSDs have their own similar routines. I have a Samsung 840 and it works fine in Yosemite but I have not attempted to enable TRIM. I am not sure what the long term impact of that is, and I'm going to post a separate question regarding whether Disk Utility performs a trim when you Repair Disk because I read that somewhere.


In the end, the questions are: Does my SSD need TRIM, and if it does, how bad is it to run it in Yosemite without TRIM enabled? I am trying to find out the answer to the second question to know if not enabling TRIM is going to cause any more than minor problems down the road.

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Aug 7, 2015 9:02 PM in response to Csound1

@Csound1


Sorry about the earlier posting of the report. I've had the machine performance issue since Yosemite, when I installed the SSD. I haven't seen it change since installing the beta.


BTW: I did a clean install of Yosemite when I installed the new SSD, and the performance was not too great then either. I migrated my previous system stuff using a Time Machine backup later.


I can remove some of the launch items, but I'm not sure it will have much of an impact.


Thanks

Sep 25, 2015 9:39 AM in response to Csound1

Hiya,


Are you using a Samsung Evo 850 in your Macbook Pro 2009? I have the same Macbook and I am looking to install an SSD, I'm torn between the Samsung, The Crucial BX100 or the Sandisk Ultra II, the Sandisk is last at the mo as it does not have any AGC on board whereas the Crucial does and they recommend using that instead of Trim on their drives, does the Samsung have any AGC on board?


Thanks in advance

Mark

Apr 21, 2016 7:39 PM in response to Network 23

I just received one of these drives. I have not installed it yet.


I was thinking about temporarily plugging it into my Windows 10 machine to update the firmware. However, when I read the 2,300+ reviews on Amazon for this drive every single person reported problems after updating the firmware.


In my 40 years of computing, I have never bothered to update the firmware on any type of drive, and I'm doing fine so far, (at least I think I am).


Samsung does not provide any understandable, (to me anyway) method of dating firmware on a Mac. Look near the bottom of this webpage and see if you can figure out anything.


http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/su pport/downloads.html

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