An APC Back-UPS and the Mac Pro

I run the Mac Pro in OSX 10.4.7 most of the time.

I just connected in my brand-new APC Back-UPS 1500RS to support the Mac Pro. The latest version of their software, the v1.33 Preferences Pane, won't open and a message instructs to me talk to APC for a later version. Ha-ha! v1.33 is the latest version.

So the MacOS cannot administer the UPS or receive any alarms, etc.

So I was wondering how people were managing this problem. In the interim, do I get rid of the UPS or what? Maybe, the UPS can still do its main function unsupervised?

BTW, when I'm in WinXP, the Windows version of the software works okay. Unfortunately, as I said, the MacOS is mostly operating.

Suggestions please?

MP3GHz+2x30" Cinemas, Mac OS X (10.4.7), 4GB/X1900XT running "X-Plane"

Posted on Sep 29, 2006 7:23 PM

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Sep 29, 2006 7:55 PM in response to infinite vortex

Thanks, Ned. I will look into that. However, there's a lot more than shutdown and sleep times to administer, like voltages, alarm levels, what to notify the owner and so on.

The Mac end of thing tells you nothing when a brownout or blackout has or is occurring. I suppose a Mac Pro owner needs to keep an eye on the status lights on the front of the UPS, a task which is unnecessary when the Mac Pro is running Windows.

So I shouldn't hide the UPS in a closet where it can't be seen?

EDIT: Having just checked out the Energy Saver as it applies to UPSs, yes, there is useful information and settings there. I'll see how it goes.
Again, thanks.

Sep 29, 2006 8:00 PM in response to Pedro

User uploaded fileGiven the racket the APC UPSs make when they switch to battery power it's a little hard to not know you're on battery power… software monitoring or not.

To be honest, beyond electrical monitoring as a whole, I find the importance of such information as this rather useless as it isn't going to change what I'm doing. The only time my actions will change is when it is severe enough for the the UPS to go to battery for more than 1 minute and that's rather hard to ignore. Not to mention Mac OS X does additionally tell you when the UPS goes to battery.

So I shouldn't hide the UPS in a closet where it can't be seen?

Well… what exact circumstance are you concerned over? For me, there's only one… a prolonged outage. Mac OS X will take care of that when I'm not around. Beyond that the UPS is there to protect my gear against everything else so I'll be continuing on without a care in the world.

Has there ever been a blackout that you've failed to notice?

Sep 29, 2006 8:26 PM in response to Pedro

User uploaded file1) Assuming yu're not around to do something about it, this should be covered by Energy Saver. A Mac Pro will more or less run for around 15 minutes on a 1500VA UPS so it's not a great amount of time anyway. The way I've set mine up is as follows…

A) Shutdown the system when the UPS gets to 20% charge
B) Sleep time is set to 5 minutes which is approximately 50% of my expected run time on my 1000VA UPS and additionally the display sleep time is 1 minute (no screen saver set as this does sometimes require high processing - Flurry is a big offender)

2) This is will be covered by the UPS' surge proctection functionality. The APC RS models can take quite a slam so don't be concerned on this front. I would only be concerned if you do not have a proper ground wiring in your home/office. Even if on the off chance there is a direct strike the UPS' fuse will blow out, isolating your electrical equipment. The important thing here is good ground wiring.

3) The APC RS models do on-the-fly trim and boost of electrical voltage so if its coming out of the UPS' battery ports it's the right voltage. Unlike cheaper model your set voltage will remain perfectly constant while your UPS has mains/battery power.

Sep 30, 2006 4:23 AM in response to Pedro

The ZeroSurge line conditioner offers the best protection from a huge surge or lightning and can be used in front of the UPS. Ambient current from a nearby strike can get into even a cat5 type cable, or make your hair stand on end - not much that can be done.

I've worked through storms, brown and blackouts. Just the other day power flickered for a second while I was formatting a drive! no problem and no harm (seems to happen a lot in this community) but had to reset TV/VCR (I did have UPS on those also but took them off).

Sep 30, 2006 12:30 PM in response to infinite vortex

Hi Ned,

Sorry for just jumping in here at this thread. I wanted to see what you mean to this one...
I also purchased an APC Back UPS RS1500, to protect my MacPro 2.66/X1900 and the rest of my stuff.
I wasn`t sure weather I could set up the UPS close to any harddrives, so I asked at APC and the Technician told me there isn`t any problem for that.

Now the thing is, he told that the "Back UPS" isn`t reccomended for our type of Mac because of "graduated sinuswaves" (I had to translate this from German it originally said "Stufenfoermigen Sinuswelle"). Really don`t know what it means?
Anyway he reccomends to use a "Smart UPS 1000VA" or higher!
What do you or anyone else know about this?
Do I have to go ahaed and exchange the UPS?

Marc

Oct 1, 2006 8:52 AM in response to Marcy Boy

The Smart-UPS 700 and above output a real sine wave, whereas the Back-UPS models output a stepped (approximated) sine wave.

Some loads cannot be driven by a stepped sine wave. AC motors, for example, wouldn't run smoothly. But for switch-mode power supplies, which are used in all modern computers including the Mac Pro, it doesn't really make a difference whether the sine wave is real or approximated.

A stepped sine wave will put more strain on components in the power supply, though, so a real sine wave output is always better. But this applies to all computers, not just the Mac Pro. I don't see a particular reason why you absolutely need a Smart-UPS for the Mac Pro.

Oct 1, 2006 1:07 PM in response to infinite vortex

User uploaded fileI manage my APC Back-UPS RS
1000VA directly with Energy Saver System Preference.
When you connect your UPS via the supplied USB cable
it will appear as a new Power Source in Energy Saver
and from there you can administer the shutdown/sleep
times etc.


Do all APC Back-UPS do this?

I have a 900XS, and though it has a data port, and I have it connected via USB, nothing shows up in the Enegy Saver.

Are the XS models just lame?

Dec 7, 2006 3:35 AM in response to dtj

The XS does the boost and trim differently, and it doesn't have an RJ45 line surge. They are sold retail by 3rd party but not from APC direct. I have both RS and XS1500 models.

PowerChute hasn't caused problems, but I thought the only time it was needed would be to handle what happens if there is a power outage and you want the system to restart, or if the outage occurs when in sleep mode.

The Windows version, especially the business edition, have more useful features than the Mac. Shame.

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