Where is my memory? (How to clear "Documents and Data")

Hi


Recently, I have had some issues with the memory of my iPhone, where I get warnings that the memory is full or almost full.


I have had a look at settings>general>usage.


There are two things that strike me as odd:


-The first is that it tells me that 12.2 GB of space has been used, but when I total all the memory usage for all the apps, I only reach 6.8GB. Does the operating system really take up that much space? My initial guess would be that the capacity of the phone is 16GB, and that the 12.2 represents the remainng capacity after 3.8GB has been taken up by the OS.


-The second is that when I have a closer look at Podcasts, which is the app with by far the greatest memory useage at 3.7GB. It tells me that 933MB are taken up by podcasts, and it then shows how much space is taken by each of my podcasts. But then, at the bottom, it says "Documents and data: 2.8GB". What are these documents and data? Presumably, they are not the podcast episodes themselves, as those should be what are listed in the 933MB..


Any advice on any of these issues would be greatly appreciated.


I don't know what model iphone I have, it says "Model A1457" on the back. It was purchased some time in 2014.


It seems the operating system is 8.0.2 (if that is what the "version" in the "about" section of settings talks about).

Posted on Feb 9, 2015 3:47 AM

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Apr 19, 2016 11:47 AM in response to Seattle Ethan

Ok, I deleted OneNote app (from Microsoft), deleted mailboxes, imessages, weChat and podcasts contents (app cannot be deleted), then rebooted, then synced with my itunes in MBP several times. It reduced documents and data from 39.5 gig to 2.4 gig. I have a whopping 38 gig or free space now. Hopefully, it will remain that way.

My chief suspect in hindsight is OneNote (based on hunch) and Podcasts (based on other users from this forum). I'm guessing podcast contents take up documents and data, which when you delete in iphone, they still remain on your iphone, which is why you have to reboot iphone and/or sync with itunes.

Apr 22, 2016 6:00 AM in response to dr_bab

Too bad this option no longer exists. It is a really BAD product/software that Apple created that shows 52 GB of memory used, when only 10 of that is specified in the "Storage" details and I can find no way to fix this without a heck of a lot of work and potential lost information. They need a cache clearing tool if they are too unfocused to fix the fault in the iOS that allows things to stay after being used.

May 22, 2016 2:00 PM in response to dr_bab

The solution presented by sonny3301 had it's mysteries but in fact WORKED OUT (Thank you very much!) for me without needing of Reset / Backup / Restore even sync with a desktop PC. I found the app on Brazilian Apps Store as:


Battery Doctor - Master of Battery Maintenance

Vendor/Developer: Beijing Kingsoft Internet Security software Co.Ltd

Category: Utilities

Last update: 31 oct 2015

Version: 7.3

Dev. website: ijinshan.com


However, it takes me more than 60 times to free almost 12gb of my iPhone! I was almost giving up.... The Documents and Data section of the Podcast App had 8.1GB and now has only 309mb. Quite a relief!


As part of solution I'm going to delete all my existing podcasts and subscriptions and begin to use the Overcast App. Let's see if it's a valid long term solution (and shame on you Apple).

Jul 21, 2016 10:35 AM in response to dr_bab

This is my third time with this issue. What'sapp is not my problem.


My least painful choice is to restore from ITUNES BACK UP BECAUSE ICLOUD BACK UP DOESN'T BACK UP TEXTS. The restore may take a few hours and many of my device settings must be redone.


I will bet you android is the same frustration. This is the price I pay for not having to walk to the mailbox to deliver mail (i use email) and other conveniences of smartphone.


In any case very aggravating the third time with this problem but I'm getting used to it.


At least, I know the "solution" and don't have to call them and hear them say, "I know how frustrating this must be" and "I never heard of this issue with false memory usage" or let me talk to a higher level tech or engineer

Jul 21, 2016 1:20 PM in response to Apple falls far from old Apple

Apple falls far from old Apple wrote:


This is my third time with this issue…

I'd consider taking screenshots of your usage (Settings app > General > Usage > Manage Storage). Compare that to the same list after you erase & restore. You may find that the size change is related to a particular app. Keeping messages attachments will increase the usage, so be sure to see if the usage is reasonable before you erase.


It may be cache data that needs to be purged, however iOS doesn't offer any way to do that manually. So you may just need to fill the device to get it to be freed. I suspect that is what the Battery Doctor app mentioned here did as it fits with descriptions of other research into this issue.


I'd also suggest you password protect the backup in iTunes to keep all your passwords, just do not lose the password as you cannot reset or restore without it.

Oct 26, 2016 9:56 AM in response to Lekz1

Read the post by cammac2016, the app appears in the UK store if you search 'Battery Doctor - Master of Battery Maintenance'. I have not installed the app as it appears to be little more than pointless adware with no English support.


Install it if you trust the app, the so called 'cleaning' does appear to be manipulating iOS features to clear data - if that was meant to work it would work first try, not after 30 or 60 attempts as other commenters mention. I don't know if that feature is still in the app.

Feb 14, 2017 2:47 PM in response to steriana

To anyone still having is issue on the iPad, I have just fixed the problem with a great app called Memory & Disk Scanner Pro. It deleted 1.56 GB of other data in my podcasts. Around 250 MB first go, 1.25 GB second and the remaining circa 60 Mb on the third 🙂 you need to pay 99 cents after this but job done for me...for now at least! Happy hunting.

Feb 16, 2017 9:12 AM in response to dr_bab

I came to this thread as I had 2.0 gigs! of documents & data on my podcast app that I couldn't clear *-* I went through a bunch of different options before I thought of just deleting the podcast app. Worked like a charm!!!! I had 2.9 gigs of podcast data in storage before & went down to 374.8 MB after it automatically reinstalled my podcasts upon re-downloading the app. Just make sure your podcast subscriptions are on your iTunes are how you want them before downloading back on your iPhone (if you don't limit the episodes on your favorite podcast it will try to download them all).

May 2, 2017 5:11 AM in response to steriana

Thanks. There is another Battery Doctor, made by Ignis America, which also does not help disk space. It reduces, but only by about 25 to 50mb each time.

Currently my Apple podcast app, under 'Documents & Data' (which cannot be accessed to delete, nor can the app itself be deleted) is taking up 6.2gb of a 16gb phone.
***...? Thanks Apple. Any solutions, please post them here - if you care at all.

May 2, 2017 11:36 AM in response to Drew Reece

Many thanks for that. I had considered backup per the recommendations here, but am afraid to lose my Notes, which don't seem to go up to iCloud, helpfully enough. Will a backup restore them i wonder?

Then i also found i don't have a 'Restrictions Password', which seems required for a Reset.


Thanks again, sorry to be so backward; i only use iphone for notes & podcasts anyway. Should really get much more familiar.

May 30, 2017 12:31 PM in response to dr_bab

I tried the battery doctor app suggested. Did not work to reduce the "Documents & Data" for Podcasts app which had grown to something like 16 GB of storage space on a 32 GB IPhone 5c. Was seeing Storage almost full warnings and forced me to delete many photos, music and other data from other apps.


What worked for me was to follow suggestions of Backup & Restore via iTunes which took about 1 hour but completely removed the Documents & Data from podcast app.

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