Can't Observe/Control

I've been using VNC to manage my Macs for a while and that has been working just fine. But I recently picked up Remote Desktop 3 for all the other very useful features. All of these features, like Reports, Spotlight, etc work just fine. But whenever trying to use Observe, Control, or Curtain it says it is trying to connect to the Mac, but never does. Yet I can still VNC to them just fine. I have the Remote Desktop services running and opened up on the Firewall. Is there something I might be missing?

Posted on Oct 15, 2006 6:10 PM

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Feb 19, 2007 11:28 AM in response to superoxy

I had a similar problem on our network where I could see certain computers, install software and do other admin tasks, but couldn't get the computer's screen to open on the admin machine. I was able to fix this by going into the software firewall and enabling the VNC service, which opens 5900-5902 TCP and 5900 UDP. (obviously this will only work if you are using the software firewall)

Hope this helps someone. It was immensely frustrating to be able to do remote tasks and not be able to control the computer.

Feb 24, 2007 10:33 PM in response to Soabirw

I was hoping this topic would help. My client is in another city and I connect via the Apple VPN. Machines that have been working will now not allow me to control/observe but everything else works. The built in firewall is off and hasn't been touched. I tried remotely reinstalling ARD, then turned that off and install Vine (VNC server) and got the user to configure it and still no go. Something is blocking it but as I said the firewall is off. Using ARD 2.2 but was going to consider upgrading but vine didn't work, might have to test when I go up there. It's now happened on 5 machines out of 50 and on all the new ones. I wonder if it was an update sometime...

Feb 26, 2007 1:17 PM in response to Eric Francis

My problem: PPC G5 can control PowerBook G4, but the PB G4 cannot connect to PPC G5. The PB G4 could send a message but not control.

Having reviewed this thread I added the VNC rule to the firewall of the PPC G5 and the PB G4 was able to connect and control.

Both of the machines began with earlier versions of the OS and ARD installed, and have been updated regularly. The PPC G5 firewall rule for ARD says it opens port 3238 for UDP and TCP. I think this is a typo in the System Prefs software module; all the documentation I have read refers to 3283 only. The PB G4 ARD rule says it opens ports 3283 and 5900.

It appears that ARD v1 used port 3283. ARD v2 introduced the use of TCP ports 5900 and 5988.

Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Mar 2, 2007 8:16 PM in response to Mophilly

I'll post my experience with this problem. Hopefully it might help some out there. I've posted a few times on this topic but have yet to get any help. Originally, I was trying to use ARD over Hamachi. When I ran into problems with this I took a step back and tried to get ARD to work over the local network first and found I couldn't control the one computer across the LAN either.

To resolve this (after trying many other options) I ended up removing ALL of ARD (as described in some other threads) including the client software then re-installing OSX, re-updating and re-installing ARD and it's updates. Four hours later, everything worked and as figured, once it worked on the LAN, it worked over Hamachi as well.

As long as you are sure it's not a firewall issue or a conflicting VNC issue, this may be your last resort. I believe the culprit would have been in the client software built into OSX as I also couldn't use any other VNC software to control the mac as well.

Hope this helps anyone else struggling with this problem.

Mar 8, 2007 8:27 PM in response to Soabirw

I did it, nothing else worked, but phew!!!
I removed system/library/coreservices/RemoteManagement

Installed it from the installer I made from within ARD. I had to run the upgrade as well. (not sure how this will go on an intel) and I can get back in now. Maybe if I grab a copy and set up an installer to fix this it might work, another day. I have 4 to fix. Thanks for all the suggestions.

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