"Slip" Tool In Logic?

Hello, everyone. Does Logic have a tool analagous to Final Cut Pro's "slip" tool? This tool allows you to take a section (audio or video) and move it forward or back in that section WITHOUT having to actually move the section itself in the timeline. Sorry if this explanation didn't make much sense . . .

I typed "slip" in the key commands window, and, alas, nothing was shown. I figured I didn't have the correct term, but I thought I'd try on there anyway.

Anyone have any idea what I'm referring to and if Logic has it's own version of a "slip" tool?

Thank you very much, everyone, in advance, for all the help,
Javier Calderon

Macintosh Dual 2 Gig G5, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Oct 17, 2006 8:17 AM

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Oct 17, 2006 1:44 PM in response to BM5.5

Hi, BM. Thank you. That sounds like a great suggestion . . .

But . . . the Audio Window? I'm sorry for my ignorance, but could you please point me in the right direction as to how to GET to the Audio Window? I mean I know there's the Arrange, the Mix, the Event, The Score, Transform, etc . . . but I'm not seeing a category where it says "Audio Window". How do I access it?

Thank you very much again for your help.

🙂

Javier

Oct 17, 2006 11:55 AM in response to Phillip K

Sorry. I just read the initial question that I posted, and realize that it's a bit vague AND ambiguous (a double whammy there for you).

I'm looking for a command in Logic, if there is one, that would allow you to move ONLY the waveform within a region forward or backward while keeping the region itself in the same position.

In visual editing, if you have clip 1, 2, and 3 (cut and edited together in that order) and you want to keep where the cuts specifically take place, but you want to, for example, see a different portion of clip 2 (a few frames earlier, say), then you use the slip tool, which, again, allows you to do this very thing (move only the visual portion of clip 2 one way or the other without loosing the integrity of the cut itself).

Hope that helps clarify a little bit.

Oct 17, 2006 12:59 PM in response to Javier72

No, Logic does not offer a slip tool. Although a common editing trick in movie editors (I'm a fan on FCP too, it's great) it's less common with audio editors, for some reason.

The region start and end defines the content. However, if you open a region in the sample editor, you can drag the anchor and depending on the "update arrange position" status, you get a similar effect. Give it a try, anyway...

Oct 17, 2006 1:38 PM in response to Bee Jay

" you open a region in the sample editor, you can drag the anchor and depending on the "update arrange position" status, you get a similar effect. Give it a try, anyway... "

Thanks, Bee. I'll give it a try . . . or, um . . . consider giving it a try - 🙂 . . . In this time that I've been mixing my feature in Logic, I've pretty much worked in the Arrange and Mix windows (and ocassionally the Enviornment) . . . Haven't touched the Sample Editor much yet, so, of course, I'm quite a bit intimidated . . .

But I guess I have to go in there and do some work sooner or later eh?

I'll give it a try.

Thanks,
Javier

Oct 17, 2006 1:48 PM in response to BM5.5

I think the closest approximation to what you're trying to do is if you double click on a region, which should bring up the sampe editor window.

Then with the shift key held down, drag your mouse on the region. This should move the entire region (both start and end points) over the wave form. In other words the absolute duration of the region remains the same, but the location (start/end) of the clip will change.

I think its the shift key... Maybe it's the CTRL key... It's one of the modifier keys anyhow, I'm not at my Logic computer right now, sorry. Try a few keys to see which works.

Oct 17, 2006 2:03 PM in response to timkertoy

Shift-Click in the sample editor will move the start or end of the selection, it won 't slip the region contents.

Control will zoom.

Option or Command will move both the start and end of the selection, but again won't slip the region contents.

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To get to the audio window, go to Audio > Audio Window.

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That tip that was linked to does not slip, it's shortening the region. A slip edit does not move the region start and end points, just the content inside the region.

Oct 17, 2006 2:08 PM in response to david nahmani

Nope. Didn't miss it at all. Thanks. Haven't looked at it yet though. I went into the Sample Editor window first. I had a little bit of a problem initially because, when I held down the option key and moved the mouse over the selected region, the newly selected region would indeed play, but only in the Sample Editor. It didn't update in the Arrange window (is this a setting issue, by the way, that I should look into?).

I ended up having to manually move the start and end points of the region to a different place . . . and that ultimately accomplished the desired result . . . But I'm thinking that the suggestions that were made on here (particularly by Tim) were designed to have occured in a simple click-and-move mouse manuever. I think I'm missing a step somehow.

All the same, however, and as I mentioned, I did at least figure out a way to accomplish things (moving the start and end points while in the Sample Editor).

Now I'll go click on the link, and read that as well, so that I can learn yet another (possibly quicker) way to do this.

Thank you very much,
Javier

Oct 17, 2006 2:09 PM in response to david nahmani

Good stuff.

Javier - these are all different ways of achieving the same thing - offsetting the "anchor" of the audio to the region.

It's not the exact same thing as FCP's slip, but they all give a good approximation of the slip functionality. David's method is the easiest and closest to what you want - it's a good one that, not one I've used before, I don't think.

(I have to say, for most uses, it's infinitely easier to just nudge the region 🙂

In FCP etc you often need to slip more, as you will mostly have video clips "butting" up against each other directly, whereas with audio apps this scenario is much less likely.

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