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Windows will not boot (SSD in optibay with OSX/Window, HDD in main bay for Mac storage)

Main bay: HDD for storage (Mac-formatted)

Optibay: SSD for operating systems

Version: OSX Yosemite

Description of issue:

I removed power from internal HDD so Windows install would work properly on SSD. I didn't think/realize that once it was installed and I plugged internal HDD back in that I would not be able to boot into Windows.

This is where I am now:

Last login: Tue Apr 7 00:00:16 on ttys000

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ diskutil list

/dev/disk0

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *480.1 GB disk0

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1

2: Apple_CoreStorage 319.2 GB disk0s2

3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3

4: Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP 160.0 GB disk0s4

/dev/disk1

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk1

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1

2: Apple_HFS 1TB Internal HDD 999.9 GB disk1s2

/dev/disk2

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: Apple_HFS Stealth SSD *318.9 GB disk2

Logical Volume on disk0s2

98832CC2-D844-438A-BBBC-2861CCB21B35

Unencrypted

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ diskutil cs list

CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

|

+-- Logical Volume Group 3F0B9078-5B88-473E-8BE0-AD1B401D1B5F

=========================================================

Name: Stealth SSD

Status: Online

Size: 319244222464 B (319.2 GB)

Free Space: 18907136 B (18.9 MB)

|

+-< Physical Volume 8B88188C-3DB7-49CB-8335-24563D7B0C9B

| ----------------------------------------------------

| Index: 0

| Disk: disk0s2

| Status: Online

| Size: 319244222464 B (319.2 GB)

|

+-> Logical Volume Family 53E2A31F-BA81-4969-9041-5A82D182C4F3

----------------------------------------------------------

Encryption Status: Unlocked

Encryption Type: None

Conversion Status: NoConversion

Conversion Direction: -none-

Has Encrypted Extents: No

Fully Secure: No

Passphrase Required: No

|

+-> Logical Volume 98832CC2-D844-438A-BBBC-2861CCB21B35

---------------------------------------------------

Disk: disk2

Status: Online

Size (Total): 318872993792 B (318.9 GB)

Conversion Progress: -none-

Revertible: Yes (no decryption required)

LV Name: Stealth SSD

Volume Name: Stealth SSD

Content Hint: Apple_HFS

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=480103981056; sectorsize=512; blocks=937703088

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: error: bogus map

gpt show: unable to open device '/dev/disk0': Undefined error: 0

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

gpt show: /dev/disk1: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

gpt show: /dev/disk1: PMBR at sector 0

gpt show: /dev/disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: /dev/disk1: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

start size index contents

0 1 PMBR

1 1 Pri GPT header

2 32 Pri GPT table

34 6

40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

409640 1952853344 2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

1953262984 262151

1953525135 32 Sec GPT table

1953525167 1 Sec GPT header

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 58369/255/63 [937703088 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

Starting Ending

#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - 409639] <Unknown ID>

2: AC 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 409640 - 623523872] <Unknown ID>

3: AB 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 623933512 - 1269536] Darwin Boot

*4: 07 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 625203200 - 312496128] HPFS/QNX/AUX

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2), null

Posted on Apr 6, 2015 11:04 PM

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austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 8:36 AM in response to Loner T

I can never boot into the Windows installation as long as the internal hard drive is connected ("no bootable device"). What do you suggest I do?

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 8:45 AM in response to austinmarti

Does Windows boot up in Windows Safe Mode?

austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 9:38 AM in response to Loner T

I tried by tapping F8 repeatedly, but it went to the same screen ("no bootable device").

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 10:00 AM in response to austinmarti

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/create-a-system-repair-disc is another option.

austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 6:31 PM in response to Loner T

Is there an easier solution that would involve just reinstalling Windows? I'm trying to repair a fresh installation of Windows, so why not just start from scratch and fix whatever I did wrong?

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 7:20 PM in response to austinmarti

I assumed that you did not want to lose your current installation. If you are willing to blow it away and start over again, then use BCA (only) to remove Windows. Please do not use any other tools to manipulate partitions. BCA does lot more than just removing partitions.

austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 7:32 PM in response to Loner T

Do you have any suggestions for the next attempt?

Is there a process I can follow which should have it work properly given that you know:

there is an internal hard drive with storage on it for Mac in the main bay
Mac OS is installed on the SSD in the optibay
I am attempting to install windows to the SSD in the optibay

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 8:35 PM in response to austinmarti

My suggestion is contingent on you having a working internal Optical drive for the duration of the Windows Install.

1. Since HDD is pure non-OS storage, physically remove it. It will be re-installed later. I suggest re-installing it in the Optibay, not the main bay.

2. Move the SSD to main bay.

3. Install Optical drive in Optibay.

4. Use BCA to install Windows on SSD. The SSD now has OS X and Windows. If the SSD is a small disk(<128g), my suggestion would be use the HDD as shared storage with FAT or exFAT format.

5. Remove Optical drive and install the HDD in Optibay.

Once you have the final HW in place. Take a TM backup of OS X on an external disk. Take a Windows backup (System Image) on a separate external NTFS-formatted disk. Using a large 4TB disk and using it for both OS X and Windows is a compromise solution.

The HDD is a slower device and does not need the highest SATA rate that can be negotiated in the main bay. This should be for your faster SSD. The HDD will not perform significantly better in either bay, but the SSD should work much better in the main bay for performance and speed. It also allows Windows to work normally and have fewer issues due to possible SATA issues in the Optibay.

austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 8:38 PM in response to Loner T

Sounds like a plan! Thanks so much.

One question. It sounds important that I have that optical drive in the computer during the install, yes? Can't just leave the bay vacant?

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 8:58 PM in response to austinmarti

On Macs that originally had internal Optical drives, the model identifier is used to drive the installer boot logic by setting NVRAM variables (boot args). There is no control that a user has over this. BCA is stubborn about this. It would also mean you will need a physical DVD. If you have an ISO, burn it to a DVD at the recommended rate for the media, not any faster, otherwise there are more issues when blocks become unreadable, even though the DVD looks perfectly clean in Finder.

austinmarti Author

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Apr 8, 2015 9:26 PM in response to Loner T

Makes sense! I will try this and report back within 24 hours hopefully.

austinmarti Author

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Apr 9, 2015 3:00 PM in response to Loner T

Great news! I didn't have to reinstall anything. I checked the boot-up upon switching the SSD and HDD (SSD to main bay), and Windows booted up!

Loner T

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Apr 9, 2015 4:43 PM in response to austinmarti

Excellent work. Glad to see it working. The primary issue for disks in Optibay are SATA speed related. You should be able to see the negotiated rates in System Report -> SATA.

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Windows will not boot (SSD in optibay with OSX/Window, HDD in main bay for Mac storage)