Windows will not boot (SSD in optibay with OSX/Window, HDD in main bay for Mac storage)

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Windows will not boot (SSD in optibay with OSX/Window, HDD in main bay for Mac storage)

Main bay: HDD for storage (Mac-formatted)

Optibay: SSD for operating systems

Version: OSX Yosemite

Description of issue:

I removed power from internal HDD so Windows install would work properly on SSD. I didn't think/realize that once it was installed and I plugged internal HDD back in that I would not be able to boot into Windows.

This is where I am now:

Last login: Tue Apr 7 00:00:16 on ttys000

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ diskutil list

/dev/disk0

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *480.1 GB disk0

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1

2: Apple_CoreStorage 319.2 GB disk0s2

3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3

4: Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP 160.0 GB disk0s4

/dev/disk1

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk1

1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1

2: Apple_HFS 1TB Internal HDD 999.9 GB disk1s2

/dev/disk2

#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER

0: Apple_HFS Stealth SSD *318.9 GB disk2

Logical Volume on disk0s2

98832CC2-D844-438A-BBBC-2861CCB21B35

Unencrypted

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ diskutil cs list

CoreStorage logical volume groups (1 found)

|

+-- Logical Volume Group 3F0B9078-5B88-473E-8BE0-AD1B401D1B5F

=========================================================

Name: Stealth SSD

Status: Online

Size: 319244222464 B (319.2 GB)

Free Space: 18907136 B (18.9 MB)

|

+-< Physical Volume 8B88188C-3DB7-49CB-8335-24563D7B0C9B

| ----------------------------------------------------

| Index: 0

| Disk: disk0s2

| Status: Online

| Size: 319244222464 B (319.2 GB)

|

+-> Logical Volume Family 53E2A31F-BA81-4969-9041-5A82D182C4F3

----------------------------------------------------------

Encryption Status: Unlocked

Encryption Type: None

Conversion Status: NoConversion

Conversion Direction: -none-

Has Encrypted Extents: No

Fully Secure: No

Passphrase Required: No

|

+-> Logical Volume 98832CC2-D844-438A-BBBC-2861CCB21B35

---------------------------------------------------

Disk: disk2

Status: Online

Size (Total): 318872993792 B (318.9 GB)

Conversion Progress: -none-

Revertible: Yes (no decryption required)

LV Name: Stealth SSD

Volume Name: Stealth SSD

Content Hint: Apple_HFS

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk0

gpt show: /dev/disk0: mediasize=480103981056; sectorsize=512; blocks=937703088

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Suspicious MBR at sector 0

gpt show: /dev/disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: error: bogus map

gpt show: unable to open device '/dev/disk0': Undefined error: 0

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo gpt -vv -r show /dev/disk1

gpt show: /dev/disk1: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168

gpt show: /dev/disk1: PMBR at sector 0

gpt show: /dev/disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1

gpt show: /dev/disk1: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167

start size index contents

0 1 PMBR

1 1 Pri GPT header

2 32 Pri GPT table

34 6

40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B

409640 1952853344 2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC

1953262984 262151

1953525135 32 Sec GPT table

1953525167 1 Sec GPT header

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

Disk: /dev/disk0 geometry: 58369/255/63 [937703088 sectors]

Signature: 0xAA55

Starting Ending

#: id cyl hd sec - cyl hd sec [ start - size]

------------------------------------------------------------------------

1: EE 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 1 - 409639] <Unknown ID>

2: AC 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 409640 - 623523872] <Unknown ID>

3: AB 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 623933512 - 1269536] Darwin Boot

*4: 07 1023 254 63 - 1023 254 63 [ 625203200 - 312496128] HPFS/QNX/AUX

Austins-MacBook-Pro:~ austinmarti$ sudo fdisk /dev/disk1

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2), null

Posted on Apr 6, 2015 11:04 PM

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Answer 1

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 4:52 AM in response to austinmarti

There are known SATA speed issues with two disk combinations on older MBPs.

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Answer 2

austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 2:57 PM in response to Loner T

But does that really matter? I've had this SSD in my computer for going on 3 years and it works fine.

The issue at hand is how to get Windows to boot up properly when my internal HDD is hooked up. Can you help me with this? Much appreciated.

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Answer 3

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Apr 7, 2015 3:12 PM in response to austinmarti

But does that really matter? I've had this SSD in my computer for going on 3 years and it works fine.

It may, based on your SATA controller, and AHCI settings when Windows was installed. Have you had a working Windows installation on the SSD when it was in this bay?

1. Do you have any third party NTFS software?

2. If both drives are plugged in, can you see the Windows partition and browse it to see files?

3. Does the Windows partition show up in System Preferences -> Startup Disks?

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Answer 4

austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 3:29 PM in response to Loner T

I had boot camp set up previously, but I think this may have been before I installed the SSD, and maybe I just had it running on the HDD.

I've seen what seems like this same issue posted many, many times, where it is an issue of Windows seeing a GPT partition/drive, so it won't boot. Is that not what's going on for me, too?

1. I have Paragon NTFS for Mac OS X v12.2.313

2. Yes.

3. I can only see the Mac partition (but when I hold option when booting, I can choose Windows from there. Will boot if HDD unplugged) :

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Answer 5

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 3:39 PM in response to austinmarti

Can you remove Paragon NTFS as a test completely, and check if the Windows installation shows up in System Preferences?

Paragon interferes with the Apple NTFS driver, and the Apple driver will not allow any other NTFS-driver-controlled partition to show up in Start Up Disk.

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Answer 6

austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 3:46 PM in response to Loner T

Turned off Paragon, restarted computer, Windows installation appears!

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Answer 7

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 3:49 PM in response to austinmarti

Can you select Bootcamp and click on Restart?

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Answer 8

austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 3:55 PM in response to Loner T

Selected Bootcamp and restarted. It initiates but then says "no bootable device..." as usual.

If I were to unplug the HDD, it would continue past this point and boot into Windows.

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Answer 9

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 3:58 PM in response to austinmarti

How easy is it for you to swap the HDD and SSD? What is the version of Windows? What is your Mac year/model?

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Answer 10

austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 4:07 PM in response to Loner T

It's not too difficult. Would probably take me 10-15 minutes assuming I have a Torx wrench handy.

Windows 7 Professional

Macbook Pro 15-inch, Mid 2012

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Answer 11

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 4:06 PM in response to austinmarti

Please edit your screen shot and remove your serial number. You may also be able to use bootrec.exe and run /ScanOS and re-build BCD as necessary.

Please ensure you have backups of both OSX and Windows side.

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austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 4:11 PM in response to Loner T

To try using bootrec.exe, you mean I should unplug the HDD so I can boot into Windows and run it there?

Follow these instructions?

Use Bootrec.exe in the Windows RE to troubleshoot startup issues

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Answer 13

Loner T

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Apr 7, 2015 4:42 PM in response to austinmarti

No, you do not need to unplug the HDD. If you have the Windows Installer for W7 on the USB that was used to install it, insert it. From System Preferences choose Bootcamp (not the USB) and click on Restart. It should boot into Windows from the USB. You should now be able to run Repair/Recovery.

This is what it will look like - http://imgur.com/a/1DaOE#0.

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austinmarti Author

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Apr 7, 2015 10:26 PM in response to Loner T

I wish I would have seen this reply earlier. I didn't get a notification for it.

1. I inserted the Windows USB flash drive. I set Bootcamp as the startup disk. I restarted. It booted to the "no bootable device" screen.

2. I restarted and held "Option". I chose to boot into Windows (USB). It showed the screen you posted via the image and only proceeded with installation setup (no repair/recovery options there).

Therefore, I don't know how to get to this repair/recovery.

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Answer 15

Loner T

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Apr 8, 2015 7:29 AM in response to austinmarti

To be able to Repair, you want to select the BC Windows, not the USB. Choosing the USB starts the installer. You can try the Alt/Option method, but choose your existing Windows installation, not the USB, and bring up the Repair console.

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