Is iPhoto deleted by the 10.10.3 update ?

Todd, I wish I could bake you a cake!!! This worked for me after about 5 days of super frustration . . . everyone else seemed to be able to run iPhoto simultaneously but mine had disappeared and I had tried every trick offered, had been told I was the only one this happened to!! You just made my weekend, thank you SO SO MUCH

i agree with everything you said here . . . i had the same experience . . . so glad i came to this forum one more time and found this . . .

Horse Feathers and I had the same issue . . . I think it was rare, but for some of us, iPhoto did disappear and the suggestion from Todd finally worked for me after trying many other different things . . . Terence, you are very helpful on the boards where so many are so obnoxious . . . THANK YOU

I called Apple Support to explain the grayed-out iPhoto situation. The advisor told me that this is a rare situation. Since my iMac was less than a week old, and was not yet backed up, the rep told me that based on my iMac's serial number, he could do an erase and re-install that would install the OS my iMac shipped with. I thought I would have a fully restored version of iPhoto. The re-install failed. A window opened that said "Can't install the additional components needed to install OS X." Another call to support, and the second rep told me the first rep was wrong, that once the system was upgraded to 10.10.3, only 10.10.3 could be reinstalled. I was resigned to the fact that I was stuck with 10.10.3. The re-install was attempted again, and this time it was successful. Since the reinstall, there is no iPhoto icon of any type anywhere, and I was told that iPhoto is no longer an option for me. In the meantime, I started playing around with Photos to see about making albums work like iPhoto's events. I can organize albums by date, and select key photos. Unlike events, the date of the album doesn't show until I open the album. In events, I could wipe across an event with my cursor, and it would show the photos in the event without opening the event. That was a useful feature, and I hope Apple includes this in future updates --and maybe there's another solution, but that's another topic. Keywords import from iPhoto to Photos, but only for jpg files, not RAW formatted originals.Not sure, but that may have more to do with the nature of RAW files than a problem with "Photos." Again, topics for another thread.

Apple was sorry for putting me through the gray iPhoto icon situation as well as misstating what could be accomplished with an erase and re-install. The last rep I spoke with said it was never Apple's intention to disable iPhoto on machines that had it when shipped and were just being upgraded to 10.10.3, but once the upgrade is complete and iPhoto is gone, there's no getting it back.

So I will just relax and live with it, see what improvements come with the next updates to "Photos." And yes Terence D, I found out how to store the original large files in Photos since I started customizing its features this morning.

Additionally, the iPhoto library remains on your Macintosh HD as well. OSX 10.10.3 literally duplicated your entire library so as to not risk any outraged customers in the event of a botched migration. Have a look at the visual disk space shot below. The large green box in the lower left represents my old iPhoto library, while the cyan box next to it is my Photos library.

I'm still waiting to see if future updates remove the redundant iPhoto and iPhoto libraries. However, I doubt they will automatically. For now I will hang on to my duplicate library until Photos for Mac becomes debugged and refined.

No it doesn't.

Both apps report that they are using 100 gigs or whatever, but it's the same 100 gigs. By using Unix Hard Links, the two libraries share the same store of photos. So, you can delete the one Library with no effect on the other - but you won't gain any extra space. If you delete both you'll only get the 100 gigs back not 200.

What you're seeing in that app is the fact that it doesn't understand Hard Links.

Just the answer I was looking for. Thanks.

Todd/Terrance..

Can you imagine what the many older folks at home or even college kids in school are trying to figure what happened with this so called "update?"

WE are not as adept at knowing all the intricacies of these changes and look forward to something that will WORK.

I have years into iPhoto and albums with the Apple TV...now, suddenly, these are not working and it is suggested I should start over on the 200 albums....?

I have yet to hear a solution....

I thought the photos app would convert the iPhoto and Aperture libraries together into ONE single Photos app library, but I have 2 separate libraries for Photos. Does anyone know how to merge them together?

The trick would be to merge them before converting them.

Pete

Can you imagine what the many older folks at home or even college kids in school are trying to figure what happened with this so called "update?"

I really have no idea why you're addressing this question to me. But for clarity's sake: It's not an update to iPhoto. iPhoto is finished and over, it will never be developed again. This is a whole new app with a whole new set of opportunities and limitations. Start learning.

Odd that you are asking this of me. I simply provided guidance, offering two workarounds. I suggest you try the option of moving your iPhoto to the trash and going to redownload it from your app store "purchases" tab/button assuming it is there. I might also suggest that because this an abnormal out-of-ordinary scenario you might like to try enlisting the one-off assistance of another person who is able to follow these directions. Most people usually know someone who can find their way around a computer in situations like this. Have them read this discussion. Good luck.

BTW to all those who said thank you. No sweat, you're welcome.

Yes Todd, thanks again for your tip, which did work for me. Now I wish I had just left my iMac running iPhoto using your workaround. But instead, I went directly to Apple, hoping they would be able to fix the situation more formally. My earlier post tells how that plan worked!

I am one of those "older folks at home" that Mr Kroner posted about. I'm not an IT specialist or enthusiast. I think he directed his comments to you and Mr. Devlin not out of dissatisfaction with you at all. My take on it is that he wrote to your attention because he acknowledged your expertise and was just asking for you to try to put yourselves in the shoes of those who are not as technically savvy as both of you. His criticism looks to me to be aimed at Apple for causing this kind of stress among people who have not been made aware of the possible negative consequences of doing a system update that they are prompted to do by Apple. I suggested to Apple that they be more clear with the upgrade prompt, possibly stating that "Photos" is not merely a supplemental new app, but an eventual replacement for iPhoto. What if Apple prompted an update to the OS that introduced a new "communication plus" app that was supposed to add new capabilities for written communications, only to learn after the update that it disabled Apple Mail, and was intended to replace it?

Anyway, I thought Mr. Kroner was complimenting you on your technical savvy and willingness to offer help. Thanks again to both of you.

No, if you go through Finder through "applications" you will find "iPhoto" with all of your original photo set-up. In doing the update to "photos," according to a tech, my photos did not migrate well; in other words, my changeover was a mess and created a loss in photos set-up. I can stay with iPhoto but no more update. What, oh what have they done?

Ltstevens

What have they done?, they have added a new photo app, and they have ended support for the old one.

Your original library is still intact, decide whether to use iPhoto or Photos and proceed according to that decision. You have lost nothing, you have gained a new app.