Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

You ought to read what I read:

they told everyone who tried to update an out of date library about it.

That's everyone who tried to update an out of date library. They got a message telling them to download and apply that patch. Not everyone who had to update a library, just those who tried to update an out-of-date one. If yours wasn't, then you would not have got the message. But hey, don't take my word for it. Search this very forum for all the folks who asked questions about it. They knew, didn't they?

I've been tinkering with iPhoto since 2002. So, three years? That's impressive. Well done. And you want me to explain why the Mac support shop you use don't know their business? Really?

I couldn't tell you what OS Terry is running even if I wanted to.

As for me -

I hope you'll help me understand the practical difference between an 'updater' and a patch. I long to graduate from the ranks of mere communicant to unimpeachable linguistics expert.

Gotta go. Time to address Terry's assumptions. Again.

As you seem to know nothing about Terry let's leave him out of this.

A patch fixes something that is broke, an update updates it to a newer version.

Once more you fail to answer the question, I will leave it to you now, Good Luck.

A level 8...I'll go with that...

After going to Yosemite I now have both Photo and iPhoto on board. Photo imported, at random, about 25% of my photos with no albums, events, etc. Also lost Photos for/albums for Apple TV.

I do have libraries for Photos and iPhoto however. I again backed up(external drive) the iPhoto library(9 hours) AND made a duplicate of the iPhoto Library in Picture Folder. NOW...what to do...

A U-tube video explains I should delete my Photos Library (the one randomly selected by Photos) and change the name of my iPhotos Library to Photos Library.

This makes sense in that Photos would then see the old Library as something it created for the Photos app.

If you are still following me I am still worried about Photos "seeing" my albums I've made over the past ten years. Also how might this effect the Apple TV ....apparently Apple forgot all about this little issue.

Your ideas are always appreciated....

Terry -

I can read fine. You can't. I've used Macs personally and while heading small businesses that used Macs inclusively since '92, not 2002. Change your bi-focals. Sure, I'll accept an apology. I'm not holding my breath.

I've dialed into these forums from time to time, but not often or for long, in the years Apple has hosted them. You won't find my current nom de plume by searching for it covering earlier years. I go here when I discover a flawed roll-out like Photo and try to see if others have replacements or workarounds. I tried your MediaPro 1 solution, remember? And I helped others save money & time by sharing my experience - it doesn't work. This doesn't please you. I understand.

I've never had an out-of-date Library, which means I'm not among your 'everyone' who has. If one entity in the dataset 'everyone' experiences a different specific outcome, what may the reasonable person conclude about a statement ascribing that outcome to 'everyone'?

Why haven't I had an outdated Library? Because I'm an auto-updater. When Apple announces a product update, I receive the announcement and load the update. This is a great service from a great company, our shared feelings about Photo notwithstanding. I feel the pain of your more limited correspondents, but those who ignore simple auto-updates deserve the software they try to keep using.

I don't search these pages when I don't need to for the same reason I don't subscribe to (or waste me time on) Facebook. People who use these things regularly do so for many reasons, I'm sure. I told you mine. I logged onto this string to find solutions to a problem. Why did you logon? Are you seeking a solution too, or are you all about sharing information that may or may not be correct, but which you'll defend regardless? These pages shouldn't be about assuaging personal inadequacies.

Now about that final slur or yours.

You're been an authorized Apple Reseller with a coterie of loyal paying clients, businesses & individuals alike, for decades have you? So you're entitled, nay 'duty bound', to diss one that is? What would a reasonable person infer here?

MrP

Pete -

This is useful. I'll give it a try. Many thanks.

MrP

There are steps to take with Photos,

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

Where in that sequence (which can take days or weeks even) are you.

Please note that the info provided during this process is useless, it is always far behind reality.

Note also that you have lost nothing but time, your iPhoto Library is intact and can be opened with iPhoto if you wish to check.

You need to know how long it should take (minimum duration) then you can start to estimate where you are in the process, this is not sequential, Preparing and Uploading can and do take place consecutively, just not always. Work out your minimum upload rate (either in Mb/s or MB/m, or if you prefer the long view GB/h) by dividing the library size by the upload rate (remember that they use different units, so conversion is required) and you will know if it is even possible that the upload is complete.

What would a reasonable person infer here?

A reasonable person would answer questions when asked, the real question is what do you infer?

CS -

Not only is 'The real question is what do you infer?' grammatically awful, it's tautological. By accident, I'm sure.

What reasonable questions would you like this reasonable person to answer?

But how about if we return to the question of origin and stop wasting time. What are we to make of your latest reply to Pete? Most will find it as incisive as I did:

"Please note that the info provided during this process is useless, it is always far behind reality"

Far out. My 60s friends would've termed that one hallucinogenic. Helpful? Hardly.

MrP

I do not appear be addressing a reasonable person, so the question is moot.

The statement is correct, the progress information provided is useless until the job is complete, but you don't actually care about this issue at all, you're just trolling.

In a nutshell, what is the risk of choosing not to "upgrade" to Photos and continuing to use iPhoto instead? I know that Apple no longer is supporting iPhoto, but what exactly does that mean? I normally upgrade to whatever Apple puts out without question...but in this case, I really don't want to lose the organization of my iPhoto Events to the apparently messy world of Photos Albums. Thanks.

Don -

Excellent point.

It appears we'll all be able to continue using iPhoto for the foreseeable future. I would hedge the bet, however, by continuing to seek and test alternate photo organizing software. I'm testing PhotoDirector 6 Ultra currently. I'll report my success with it, or failure, in a future post.

Everyone also should consider installing the current version of iPhoto Library Manager. I've been using it for some time. With IPLM, I didn't miss a beat when Photo issued an illogical reason why it couldn't import most of my 50k +/- image collection.

MrP

CS -

Enjoy your home-grown. I'm onto more productive discussion.

MrP

I've been tinkering with iPhoto alone and with iPhoto Library Manager for more than three years

That's what my comment was based on, your own words. Frankly I could care less. I've a relative who's been driving for more than 50 years. Means nothing. Still terrifying to travel with him. But your words are the basis of my comment. Was I wrong. Did you write something else? I have no problem admitting I am wrong. I have much experience with it.

The you say I should "Change my bifocals" but you go on to say...

I tried your MediaPro 1 solution, remember? And I helped others save money & time by sharing my experience - it doesn't work. This doesn't please you. I understand.

No I don't remember. I don't recall ever offering that app as a solution for anything. Please, enlighten me. Point out where I did. I wonder if you're confusing me with someone else? How are your bifocals?

You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between the word 'everyone' and the phrase 'everyone who tried to update an out of date library'. I know it's more words, by keep trying. You'll get there.

Remember how we got here: you said

Apple has released an iPhoto patch without telling anyone.

I was merely point out that was inaccurate (and out of date). I even explained why.

You're been an authorized Apple Reseller with a coterie of loyal paying clients, businesses & individuals alike, for decades have you? So you're entitled, nay 'duty bound', to diss one that is? What would a reasonable person infer here?

I would expect them to know about the patch. I'm not sure what you want to infer, but you'll do it anyway, so enjoy.

Well praise be to the lord, a miracle.