Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

donhoos66 wrote:

In a nutshell, what is the risk of choosing not to "upgrade" to Photos and continuing to use iPhoto instead?

None as of now, but lacking support iPhoto will eventually not do something that you may want it to. Functionally it will stay just as it is.

Note: There's a very confused poster, lacking in knowledge other than how to post, take his posts with a pinch of salt.

I saw the u-tube video "

Mac Tip: How to create a new Photos app library

under "iPhoto" and thought it would be interesting. I need more input and as yet have not done the process proscribed. Do you see a problem with this especially since you mentioned 1 and 3.

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

I can't see how I would even want to put 131 GB of photos on the "Cloud."

Let alone have the time...

Terry -

"I have no problem admitting I am wrong. I have much experience with it."

Apology accepted.

"You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between the word 'everyone' and the phrase 'everyone who tried to update an out of date library. I know it's more words, by keep trying. You'll get there."

Deflection and bad grammar befit you. Since your point is AWOL, let’s really review:

You assert that Apple released a patch about which it told 'everyone'. I asked you to define ‘everyone’. You couldn’t because 'everyone' doesn’t exist. Should I believe a truth posited as universal when it isn’t? Shouldn’t someone who issues such assertions be treated skeptically thereafter? If you can’t wrap gray matter around this, I need to follow your advice and stop ‘by keep trying’ (sic).

“I would expect them to know about the patch. I'm not sure what you want to infer, but you'll do it anyway, so enjoy”

In your version of the truth, my contractor of choice might be expected to know about said patch. But your version is a fantasy. ‘Everyone’ wasn’t told. I had to go find it. I’m on auto-update with Apple, remember? I’ve paid my contractor handsomely to tame HDD failures, provide networking support, swap out bad monitors, and lately address iPhoto issues. On my own, I’ve sampled a batch of 3^rd party programs to try to resolve iPhoto issues. I’ve spent money and time with Apple Support.

When I finally start getting somewhere, Photo came along.

Let me make you an offer. Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, perhaps your experience, credentials and acumen best my contractor’s. Maybe I should buy equipment and advice from you. Give me your bonafides. If you have the goods, maybe we’ll set things up. References are required.

MrP

Pete Kroner wrote:

I saw the u-tube video "

Mac Tip: How to create a new Photos app library

under "iPhoto" and thought it would be interesting. I need more input and as yet have not done the process proscribed. Do you see a problem with this especially since you mentioned 1 and 3.

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

I can't see how I would even want to put 131 GB of photos on the "Cloud."

Let alone have the time...

I am lucky enough to actually have fast internet uploads (10Mb/s or 40Mb/s at the office) so I just waited it out. I also have many Macs in use, leaving one of them to deal with this was not an issue. But it still took a long time.

What is the question?

The question would be: Is this the best or safest way to migrate photos from iPhoto to Photos?

This would leave me with an iPhoto library and, I think, a Photos Library.

Since Photos does not support my Albums or events I'll actually stay with iPhoto for my work.

How does my Apple TV recognize the folder in which my photos(iPhotos) are installed....presently there all mixed up on the ATV and not usable.

The photos are in both libraries (in a way) but the Photos library contains the edits made with Photos and will not show any edits made in iPhoto after Photos was installed and run. There is only one set of photographs but both libraries use them.

(In a way) they are linked by hard links and appear to be in both, but they are not duplicated.

I have zero interest in having pictures in the Cloud or using social media.

Try to understand that Apple's target audience is 10 to 20-year-olds. That's all they want to do with their images.

I am investing in Adobe Lightroom, which, after watching the extremely helpful tutorials, appears to be the perfect catalogue friendly app. Hefty price, but buying the download off amazon

I would strongly recommend you buy the software on disk. Any time you buy a download you are losing control of your ability to get that version again. With downloads, the software can be eliminated or changed in ways you don't like.

Can you post an update to how you like Adobe Lightroom after you've used it? I'm seriously considering a different software for my 20,000+ pictures and am not really sure where to start looking.

Thanks but one question...

It took 9 hours to migrate my original library to another drive and another nine hours to "duplicate" this original library. I see these as separate libraries not the same. This is in response to your comment:

"There is only one set of photographs but both libraries use them.

(In a way) they are linked by hard links and appear to be in both, but they are not duplicated."

I understand that when changes are made in one it will not show in the other library. BUT I think they are separate libraries.

You can disagree with Apple if you like, but I'm gonna go with their explanation over yours (and you misquoted me, I assume that is because you did't read it correctly, or was it deliberate)

Again

You have 2 libraries but only one set of pictures, which are in both libraries (it's a bit like Schrodingers cat really)

You seem to have continuing issues with basic comprehension. Some examples:

1. I asked you to point out where my comments were a misreading of your own words. I see you fail to do so. So, like I said, when you tell me where I misquoted you I will happily apologise. To then believe that you have received an apology demonstrates your lack of comprehension. Trust me, you haven't.

2. I never asserted that Apple told everyone. I asserted that Apple told everyone who tried to update an out of date Library. I know it's hard to get this distinction as to do so would reveal your true nature, but after a while you just can't hide it.

Some other minor points:

3. I note that you no longer make any mention of Media Pro and my supposed recommendation of it. It's just another in a long line.

4. I'm delighted that you are happy with your Mac Service Provider. I'm sure they just love to see you come in the door. How do you account for the fact they didn't know about the patch? Because they're so excellent at their job? I mean you're the one that cited them in support of your case, not me. As your case is poppycock, you're the one that shows them up, not me.

Y'all have a nice day now.

Girls, girls...stop this fighting and get back to work!

It worked, so far. I trashed my "Photos" Library....took overnight.

I renamed my "iPhoto" Library "Photos"...

And then opened Photos App. It seems that all photos, albums are comming up in the Photos app which were part of my iPhoto app.

Now, to see what effect this has on the Apple TV folder....

Wish me luck..

Pete

Pete -

Good show! Thanks for running the experiment. You've done the rest of us, doubters notwithstanding, a great service.

Folks like you who explore alternate solutions and share results are worth your weight. Calling Apple Support always is the recommended shortcut. It beats wading through a barnyard of advice from the unvetted. After all, the loudest, most insistent voice rarely offers what others need or want.

MrP will sign off soon, surely for another several years, as soon as he reports his findings about PhotoDirector6. Or I might try your solution and stop the PD6 experiment. I could stand to eliminate, not add, a possible impediment to the daisy-chain. Flashback central! Did I just terminate a Phonenet Connector?

Heaven's-to-System-6! And earlier.

MrP

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