Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

blosc wrote:

Seriously unhappy with the new iPhoto.

There is no 'new' iPhoto

Was it changed just so somebody could say,

Was what changed?

blosc wrote:

This is a mess.

Then use iPhoto

Mary Birdsong wrote:

Yes, but no. Since migrating to photos (as opposed to iPhoto), it's difficult to know which photos are going where.

They go to the destination you chose, Photos (if you have not changed anything) iPhoto or Image Capture are the other choices.

I have been following this discussion since I upgraded and lost the organization of over 100,000 photos. When I read the responses - I am looking for ways to preserve my iPhoto organization for now - but I am also very aware that Apple at some point soon will quit supporting iPhoto. Therefore, it is nice to know that I can still use iPhoto, but I am looking for a longtime, permanent solution. I think everyone realizes they can still use iPhoto - but also know that that is probably temporary. Since our organization did not carry over to Photos - we'd like to be proactive and find a solution that will be supported in the future.

I have been helped by several of the posts on how to not loose what I already have. There have also been suggestions of other programs and feedback which was very helpful. When I upgraded only 104,000 of the 109.700 photos that were in iPhoto made it to Photo. I have no way of figuring out which ones were tossed. Therefore, I am clinging to my iPhoto program with all of my pictures and organization. But I would be a fool to think that will be a long term solution.

So, when you respond that people who preferred iPhoto should be happy - we can still use it - I think you are missing the overwhelming concern that this is a temporary situation and will not be supported in the future. After the surprise and shock of having iPhoto switched to what is basically an iPhone App, and losing all organization that had been meticulously kept for a decade - we are looking to not have this happen again. The next time it happens IPhoto may not still be there.

Photos is probably a great program - if one had started there. The biggest problem is that the thousands of "Event" lines did not transfer from iPhoto. It is a mistake to believe that the date and 'location' are all the information we want over a group of pictures. It might have been awesome if that event line over a group of pictures transferred to my iPhone and iPad. Because it is not realistic to go back and try to reconstruct 109,000 photos in a different organization - I feel like I have been betrayed. I trusted Apple with ten years of photos and organization and they moved forward in a manner that had no respect or concern for longtime users who had depended on iPhoto.

I also realize that the next, best thing is the Cloud and that Apple wants us to store all our photos there. First, I have way too many photos to pay for iCloud storage, and second - I don't need to access all 109,000 pictures from my iPhone or iPad. I recognize that this will work for some people and is a nice option, but just an unnecessary expense for me.

That said, I am searching for a solution going forward. Photos will not do what I need it to do organization wise. Yes, they have Albums - but I don't want over 5,000 albums. Nor do I want this surprise again. So, yes, we can still use iPhoto, but we have been burned and want to be sure we have a plan moving forward.

iPhoto is guaranteed to run on 10.10. (It may also run on whatever comes later, but it's not guaranteed.) Basically as long as you don't update your system to the point where iPhoto doesn't run, you'll be okay. (and that just means waiting a few days before updating and checking to see if iPhoto continues to perform.)

Going forward you need to decide what kind of a shooter are you? Raw? Jpeg? Serious hobbyist or Pro? Family Snapper? Obviously you shoot in volume and that's going to push you towards a pro level app. But migration isn't *that* enormous an issue. An Event was really analogous to a folder with a fancy icon. So, exporting, Event by Event to folders in the finder, will leave you with the basics of your organisation in whatever app you choose next. I'm pretty much finished the same process now with my 60k library going to Lightroom. A PITA to have to do it, but Photos is not for me and Aperture is dead.

Apple don't want you to store all your photos in the Cloud and more than they wanted you to use iPhoto. These apps are opportunities. The have their uses (and misuses), and they either fit your needs or not. But whatever app you choose, the truth is that the same can happen again. Adobe can drop Lightroom, Phase One or whoever could be bought out by somebody who drops the Mac version (it's happened before with other apps) and so on. All you can do to protect yourself is have a rational organisation system and that whatever app you choose allows you to export whatever you have put into the app.

Thank You !!!

I was able to use the information in the link you provided (a big THANK YOU also to Barney -15E for posting the info in that link), to install the latest version of iPhoto. So now, I can access either iPhoto or Photos.

Like so many others, I have many photos and documented Events on iPhoto (over 33,000 photos). It initially appeared that not all my photos were transferred to or accessible by the new Photos. At least now, by having both iPhoto and Photos, I can compare.

It seems all converted ok for me. iPhoto indicated I had 33,xxx "items". The new Photos identifies "photos" separately from "videos", and the sum of the two adds up to the number of "items" on iPhoto. The size is about 3GB smaller on Photos, though. And all the documentation I had in iPhoto on my numerous Events, appears to have been retained when converted to Photos. I can find all my iPhoto Events (with title documentation) in the new Photos Albums. All iPhoto Events now appear in one Photos Album entitled "iPhoto Events". But the Events are still separated, and still have their iPhoto titles.

Now I will begin exploring Photos and decide what I do going forward. Thanks again to leonie and Barney.

Let us know how you find Photos Leonie and Barney.

I couldn't work out how to add location details for photos which are imported with GPS details. This was real easy to do in iPhoto. Having the city was enough detail for me.

The lack of stars in Photos was also a deal breaker for me. I read that you add that to the description but it sounds really slow and tedious for me. I used the stars to help cull the back photos from the good when loading into iPhoto. Bad would get a 1 star, I then filtered on 1 stars and did a mass delete. Then I would give them the final star rating, really useful when friends/family just want to see a few or your best pics, rather than everything. I'd then move them to the event that I wanted to store them in, e.g. Family, Friends, etc, when was a basic categorisation so I could at least have a rough way of narrowing down the selection.

I couldn't work out how to add location details for photos which are imported with GPS details. This was real easy to do in iPhoto. Having the city was enough detail for me.

You cannot add location tags in Photos. I add GPS to all photos before importing them to Photos. And I made sure, that all photos in my Aperture library and iPhoto library that I migrated to Photos had titles, captions, and GPS assigned. One more reason not to uninstall iPhoto before Apple adds geotagging to Photos. Not all cameras add GPS to photos.

If you own a geotracker, these apps are convenient:

The free exiftool, if you like the Terminal. See: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/exiftool_pod.html#geotagging_exampl es

To install exiftool: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/%7Ephil/exiftool/install.html

Other convenient apps are Jetphoto Studio, Geotagalog, houdahGeo, there are many more ..

I use Jetphoto Studio, but it is not free.

Hi, I'm having the same problems. All my events and pictures were very well organized in iPhoto, but with the new update, the icon has a grey x on top of it and tells me to upgrade to the new version of iPhoto. However, that update is not available on the Ecuadorian App Store... can someone help me?

see this thread - Why won't my iPhotos open?

LN

Who is the product manger on Photos? Anybody know?

This is the worst product I have ever seen Apple release... well since the original Mobile Maps.

Please stop reinventing apps that already work perfectly with apps that don't work.

DavidHenderon2 wrote:

Who is the product manger on Photos? Anybody know?

This is the worst product I have ever seen Apple release... well since the original Mobile Maps.

Please stop reinventing apps that already work perfectly with apps that don't work.

1. Do not use it. Continue using iPhoto

2. You are not speaking to anyone here that is from Apple, or, for that matter, that particularly cares about your opinion.

Try Apple

Cheers

Pete

You do not like Photos from Apple ? Do you wish to come back to iPhoto ? It is really easy with Time Machine. I did it today. It just took 5 hours with my iMac. You just need to go back to a previous version of Mac OS X. The answer is here for a English version : https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18846?locale=fr_FR&viewlocale=en_US, here for a French version : https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18846?locale=fr_FR&viewlocale=fr_FR. Of course, choose the last version of Mac Os X you saved just BEFORE you passed from iPhoto to Photos.

Cheers

Pier-Yves

Why waste all that effort. iPhoto is still on the Mac after Photos is installed, and the library is also preserved. All you have to do is start iPhoto instead of Photos, it takes about 4 hours and 59 minutes less than your method does.

Sorry but you are "wrong". You can not use BOTH iPhoto and Photos. You can open iPhoto but you can not import or correct photographies.

With Photos, not connexion is anymore possible with iDVD, Rapidweaver, etc.

Only the iPhoto library is preserved. After, you have 2 libraries : the one of iPhoto and the one of Photos. 2 x 96 Go for me.

In my case, AFTER MIGRATION, my iPhoto application was DELATED. By Apple ? I did not delated myself iPhoto. I just had a "forbidden signal" on my iPhoto symbol. When I tried to open iPhoto, I had this ± message : "Too late, you had migrated to Photos"

Go to different forums, I was not alone in this case.

Cheers,

Pier-Yves Menkhoff wrote:

Sorry but you are "wrong". You can not use BOTH iPhoto and Photos. You can open iPhoto but you can not import or correct photographies.

With Photos, not connexion is anymore possible with iDVD, Rapidweaver, etc.

Only the iPhoto library is preserved. After, you have 2 libraries : the one of iPhoto and the one of Photos. 2 x 96 Go for me.

In my case, AFTER MIGRATION, my iPhoto application was DELATED. By Apple ? I did not delated myself iPhoto. I just had a "forbidden signal" on my iPhoto symbol. When I tried to open iPhoto, I had this ± message : "Too late, you had migrated to Photos"

Go to different forums, I was not alone in this case.

Cheers,

I am not wrong, you are misinformed. You may use iPhoto, Photos or both of them. iPhoto works just as it did prior to Photos being installed with OS X. iPhoto is NOT deleted, but you neglected to keep it up to date.

You need iPhoto 9.6.1 for Yosemite, you have an older version so drop your existing copy of iPhoto in the trash and then download the new version from your purchases page in the App Store

Here they are. side by side in Yosemite.