Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.


Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?


Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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Apr 12, 2015 11:03 AM in response to MTNLUVR

> Trying to reorder 3,000 events is out of the question and it is pretty out of the question to go back and create albums for over 100,000 photos.


You are absolutely right about that. Looks like you can only sort events alphabetically. You could go through the events and rename them with dates as first portion of event name, but that's going to take a while too. I'm not sure what you meant by organization, but the only way of dealing with so many events is to use search. I only have 300+ events, and I am in the process of deleting some and re-package them into Photos album. It's a pain, but I figure it's time to move on. Maybe someone will write a little app to make this process automatic.

Apr 12, 2015 2:51 PM in response to joiede

Joiede,

I sync iPhoto Events to my iPad. Was really hacked off when iPhoto was deleted on mobiles last year as Photos does not keep Events sorted in the same order as iPhoto. Now Photos is on iMac the same difficulty of finding photos happens. Luckily on iMac the iPhoto app remains and Photos can be left unused. I just deleted the Photos library and undocked the Photos App button and switched back on iPhoto as default for uploading new files from cameras as well as bringing back the iPhoto button to the dock. You are correct in saying Photos on iMac has the iPhoto Events folder, but the Events dont seem to show in the same order as iPhoto (by date of first RAW/JPEG file in each Event with latest at bottom. This makes easy organisation almost impossible. I am sticking to iPhoto for as long as I can, then migrate to Lightroom or other. iCloud for photos is unrealitically expensive if you have 100+ GB of pictures so I am really not interested in Photos supposed improvements to facilitate cloud sharing. I prefer to use Flickr, Dropbox or 500 px for sharing.

Apr 13, 2015 6:08 AM in response to mystwillow

I fully agree. I have personally deleted (using the terminal since the finder does not allow me to) the Photos.app directory...


sudo rm -rv /Application/Photos.app


then removed this useless Photos Library....luckily the original iPhoto Library is still there and works fine


😠

<RANT_ON/>

Message to Apple: the lack of event makes Photos unusable. Additionally the interface is childish and waste spaces

for working with many thousands of photo.

I do not want a replica of an iOS application on my 3000 EUR computer, I have an iPhone already and they do not need

to have the same interface.

I do not want to store my 100 Gbyte set of photo libraries on iCloud, forget this iCloud everything obsession. Most

of places do not have sufficient connectivity to support that for a big library.

I want to be able to batch change Photo Data (e.g. date or location) after import, Most cameras normal people use

do not have the right time configured or do not have a built in GPS i.e. picture are not taken always with an iPhone.

I hope that Apple at least reintroduces Events and stop trying pleasing the crowd of iOS users by transforming OSX.

</RANT_OFF>

Apr 13, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Yer_Man

I think that the disconnect between Apple and amateur or professional photographers is huge right now. I actually understand why Photos works for many of todays users. For many people who are taking pictures mostly for social media, etc. it is a great format. I'd like Apple to understand why it will never work for photographers who actually use cameras (not their iPhones and iPads) to take their pictures, and need to keep and organize a huge number of pictures in an accessible, sensible, well labelled format that will be able to be accessed for decades.


I find myself tempted to go back to physical photo albums with labelled pictures - that way technology can't force me to have to change my format every couple of years and reorganize decades of photos. I know that iCloud is Apple's answer to not losing data for eternity, but it is expensive and impractical for very large numbers of pictures - and we can't control how expensive it will become. What if I have four decades of pictures in iCloud and the cost of keeping them there becomes prohibitive? Is a lifetime of picture files gone then?


Also, I realize that I can search for some long lost event - but there is also a lot of joy in scrolling through pictures - much like picking up a photo album from a shelf - and remembering forgotten events.


It is okay for Apple to make changes to make life easier for the social media generation, but Apple should be sophisticated enough to acknowledge it's other users also. The responses seem to be to stop fussing and get used to the new ways - but sometimes the new ways are missing the big picture and sorely lacking to meet user needs.

Apr 13, 2015 11:12 AM in response to MTNLUVR

> I think that the disconnect between Apple and amateur or professional photographers is huge right now.


Traditional form of (digital) photography is a dying art, and Apple knows it. Apple caters to the masses and emerging technology. There is no point asking Apple to take care of a small group of photo enthusiasts or people who would rather stick to an old dying piece of software. It's going to be up to third party developer to pick up where iPhoto and Aperture left off. Someone should license Aperture and develop it into what it deserves. Meanwhile, I use Photos as a sharing tool and I (reluctantly) use Lightroom for my other needs.


Richard

Apr 13, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow

I dislike Photo so much I've decided to try PhotoDirector 6. I'll boot it up as soon as the box arrives this week. Meanwhile . . . because I used iPhoto Library Manager previously, I still have access to all of my pictures (and iPhoto albums).


For me, Photo's real sin is its refusal to transfer any iPhoto picture for which it can't find metadata, which seems to be most of my iPhoto collection. iPhoto doesn't seem to care - using iPhoto, I can do anything I want with any image. In Photo, I can't even import those image to manipulate them.


This is a big deal.


Fail.

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