How to delete pictures permanently from Photos app in my entire mac?

That depends on what you are calling the source folder - when you hold down the command key and press the delete key with a managed library the photos is moved to the recently deleted and in thirty days or when you delete it prior to that it will be gone from the Photos library - if you have a referenced library or had duplicates outside of Photos they are never touched - Photos only manages wiles within the Photos library and you must manage any that are outside the Photos library

LN

Permanently delete photos from the app by selecting them in the master library 'Photos', the first listing on the left hand menu. They do go into the recently deleted album - in case you change your mind - but disappear from there after a set number of days.

What ever - iPhoto has never "lost" an original that I have seen but many, many, many users with referenced libraries have and of course users making major user errors like running CleanMyMac or other Malwear have lost photos due to their own actions - and with Photos you simply do not have the proper tools to manage referenced libraries in Photos so should not use them -- Disadvantages of a Referenced Library in Photos

And as to organization within the library that is clearly not an issue with either Photos or iPhoto since they totally replace the finder for their photos and you never have any need to directly access the photos withibn the library - there are no user servicable parts within the libraries. If you want to directly access your photos then you certainly should not be using Photos or iPhoto as that does not work with either program

As to what program you use that is totally a personal choice and makes no difference to anyone here - we are happy to help you with Photos and if you choose to use something else enjoy - Photos certainly is less capable than professional (and very expensive) programs like LightRoom and Aperture - but they have no system integration like Photos - Most users find that Photos is more than adequate for their needs if they learn it and use it properly and for the very few things it can not handle with extensions you can cover them and usually still be spending less money that a professional program

LN

Correct but you are storing up many future problems if you use a referenced library

Referenced libraries are not well supported and are unnecessary - and if you choose to use a referenced library you will have problems - if that is what you want you should choose a different program that supports them

see Disadvantages of a Referenced Library in Photos for more information

LN

I am in OS X with Photos 1.5 and no where do I see File--Show Recently Deleted. I was in All Photos. I've also read about a sidebar which I do not have either. Is there something I'm missing. The steps seem simple. Thanks!

Hello buddy,

may be i am repeating, but did not found the answer so far...

When i delete the album from PHOTOS app, in the source folder the same photos still exist. Please could you clarify the trick. How this actually works? I need to delete also from the SOURCE folder by deleting in PHOTOS app itself.

Thanks a lot.

George

Hi LN, thanks for your answer.

Let me explain what happens. I have made a test, a folder contains some photos which is imported into albums in photos application of mac. The thing is when i delete some of the photos already imported into photos application (from the album), they still remains in the folder. This is my question was if there is a way when deleting from Photos app also to delete from the folder. I wonder why there is no such a way.

thanks.
Georges

no

As posted

if you have a referenced library or have duplicates outside of Photos they are never touched - Photos only manages files within the Photos library and you must manage any that are outside the Photos library

LN

This is my question was if there is a way when deleting from Photos app also to delete from the folder. I wonder why there is no such a way.

Before you delete a photos from the album with ⌘⌫, use the command "File > Show Referenced File in Finder" to show the original outside the Photos Library. then you can move it easily to the system trash, after deleting it from Photos.

Apple does not say "Why" in the documentation, but if your Photos library is a migrated iPhoto or Aperture library, the same photos outside the library may be used by other applications, and Photos has no way of knowing, how many other applications are referencing the photos. For a few years Apple supported to import iPhoto Libraries to Aperture by referencing the photos directly in the iPhoto Library package, and if you migrate successfully a library to Photos, deleting referenced originals might delete managed photos from other library packages. So Photos does not remove referenced original image files and it is up to user to delete them.

And did you import the photos in iPhoto as referenced or managed? Did iPhoto create copies in the iPhoto Library or not?

You can check this with a smart album (File > New Smart album). Set the rule for the album to "Photo is referenced". If this album is empty, all photos you are seeing in Photos are stored only in the Photos Library. There is then no connection to any image file duplicates you are seeing in folders outside the Photos Library. But if this smart album is not empty, the photos in this album are only stored outside your Photos library and the command "File > Show Referenced File in Finder" will show you, where the original files are.

I have the exact same trouble:

- with delete only, the photo will be deleted from an album but not from the app and not moved to trash

- with cmd + delete, the photo will be placed in "recently deleted"

- if we delete the photo from the "recently deleted" album, it won't be deleted from the mac.

Maybe it's because the photos are stored outside the Library? But does anyone has a solution to that?

Thanks :/

- if we delete the photo from the "recently deleted" album, it won't be deleted from the mac.

Maybe it's because the photos are stored outside the Library? But does anyone has a solution to that?

Yes, if you are storing the photos outside the library, Photos will not delete them, because they may be shared with other applications.

if you want to delete photos that are stored outside the library, use the command "File > Shoew referenced file in Finder" to reveal the original file, before you delete it from Photos. Afterward move the revealed file to the Trash on your Desktop.

That is one of the reasons, why a referenced library with storing the originals outside the Photos Library is not recommended. It is easy to make mistakes when deleting the photos manually.

Thanks for your answer.

Yes, that's the only solution I found so far, but it really isn't convenient if you have several photos to delete...

It's a shame, Aperture worked like that and it was great...

This may be the reason I will need to stop using Photos and find another app to sort photos...

With Photos you should really consolidate the photos into the library, because Photos does not support a referenced library as well as Aperture. It will be a pain if you ever have to restore the library from a backup or to move the the library to a different drive, if the drive is getting too small or is failing.

But I really don't like the way it organizes the photos in the package.

With the old iPhotos, I lost numerous original files and I swore to never let it organize files for me again, that's why I have my own hierarchy outside of the Library 😟