How to delete pictures permanently from Photos app in my entire mac?

Within the Photos app for OS X you cannot delete a picture permanently from your Mac.


(I have imported my existing iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos on 10.10.3)


When I delete a picture from Photos. Photos then puts the picture in a trash bin that is hidden in the File button on the task bar - "Show Recently Deleted". When you select this it then shows all of your deleted pictures you selected in Photos. If you then select to "Delete All" it asks you again are your sure and you click ok. Photos then cannot see these photos. BUT IT DID NOT DELETE THEM FROM YOUR MAC!


I then opened iPhoto, found the photos that I deleted inside the Photos app and viola they are still there, (these are not thumbnails!) these are the exact picture. HOW DO YOU VERIFY? In iPhoto if you select the picture then go to File - "Reveal in Finder" it will show that the picture you THOUGHT you deleted in Photos, is still there in the Master folder in your library!!

FYI there is no way in Photos to find the file location, very sneaky because the app is not deleting these files. This very frustrating coming from Apple who is pushing thinner profiles so SSD's with very limited storage, to give you the assumption that you are actually deleting these photos and videos when in fact you are not.


Question again is...

How to delete pictures permanently from Photos app in my entire Mac?

Does anyone have a solution other than don't use Photos.


This question was asked and solved already but I have verified that "Delete All" in the hidden trash can in Photos does in fact not delete from your disk space! Have a video on my YouTube Channel iTJMacattack that shows this issue - for proof.


Please real help and a solution!!


Thanks,

MacBook Pro, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on Apr 12, 2015 9:28 AM

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Feb 15, 2017 1:10 PM in response to Charliie

until I noticed deleting photos did not indeed, delete photos

Somehow you are missing it - Photos does totally delete photos that it manages and that is very simple to solve by using the program properly with a managed library - Referenced libraries are not well supported and are unnecessary - and if you choose to use a referenced library you will have problems - if that is what you want you should choose a different program that supports them


LN

Feb 15, 2017 1:26 PM in response to LarryHN

And yet the Photos app preferences enable us to choose to not copy files into the Photos Library.

So, like iTunes, the app should let us organize our file in the Finder as we want...

I really don't like the Masters folder and how the package works.


I'm working on a way around my issue with an Apple Script, I'll see if that solves it properly.

Jun 18, 2017 6:13 PM in response to iTJMacattack

I actually want to keep all my photos I have in iPhoto and want to delete everything thing in Photos which I do not use except for transferring photos from my iPhone to my iCloud so I can edit those photos on my Mac or use them elsewhere. I need very little storage for that.

BUT Photos has all my OLD iPhoto photos and Apple wants to charge me to use iCloud storage. Which I do not need.


SO I am glad to keep my iPhoto images but don't want the duplicates.

Jun 18, 2017 6:34 PM in response to Glenn Paul

want to delete everything thing in Photos which I do not use

Ok - then you should do exactly that

And again if you do not need i do not use it - really simple - delete what you do not want and do not use what you do not need

Apple wants to charge me to use iCloud storage. Which I do not need.

And again if you do not need i do not use it - really simple - delete what you do not want and do not use what you do not need


Life really is simple if you do not try to make it complicated


LN

Jun 18, 2017 7:05 PM in response to Glenn Paul

Again life is simple - Photos is totally optional - stop using it and use iPhoto or any other software you do like (BTW if you take time to learn it Photos while it is certainly different than iPhoto and does have different work flows it is much better than iPhoto especially in the editing area - more editing options and easier to use)


LN

Apr 12, 2015 9:55 AM in response to FoxFifth

I am quite aware of the relationship between the two, however the shared link doesn't revolve the question.


I understand that the library is not duplicated, but the important thing to note is that if users are under the impression that they are clearing disk space by the statement that Photos says "Are you sure you want to delete the 1 photos permanently?" - "You cannot undo this action." They are under the impression that this is in fact permanently deleting the file and clearing disk space. Which in fact they are not because the file can be found in the Masters folder under your library and disk space is still being consumed... Rather than the before in iPhoto it would move from the trash inside the iPhotos app to the trash bin on your dock then could be emptied and permanently deleted from your disk space. It would no longer be in the Masters folder.


The bottom line as of right now that there is not a solution within Photos app to permanently delete a file and clear disk space. DONT delete your native iPhotos or Aperture app because if you want to do real deletion of files you need to possess one or the other to locate the file, which cannot be done inside the Photos app.

Apr 22, 2015 7:23 PM in response to iTJMacattack

I was just having a little trouble figuring out how to really delete photos from Photos myself which is why I am here.


After deleting a bunch of stuff, I figured there must be some form of trash or whatever in Photos to actually delete them completely. I had just taken a look at the Photos Library file and it was obvious nothing had really been deleted out of it yet. I was further confused because the UI of the Photos app offers no clues being as minimalist as it is.


Thanks to your post, I found the menu item to display deleted photos that are not deleted and noted a message at the top informing these have a 30 day expiration time on them before actually being deleted but this may take up to 40 days. Well, that's nice I guess but I wanted to recover the disk space now, not next month. So I chose the Delete All button and they vanished from the window displayed.


Then I took another look at the size of the Photos Library file and noted it had dropped about 250 MB or so which was probably about right for the stuff I tossed.


So it seems to me that did work. I did see a decrease in the size of the Photos Library file and that decrease looked about right to me given what I had just trashed.


I'm not sure if this makes some difference in what you were discussing but I chose to import my iPhoto photos into Photos. Then I moved the iPhoto app and it's data file to an external USB drive for safe keeping. So those things aren't coming into play here. There is no iPhotos app on the system now and it's library file has been removed as well. It's just Photos and Photos Library in my Pictures folder along with the Photo Booth Library and a bunch of folders with pics I've yet to import.

Apr 22, 2015 7:46 PM in response to iTJMacattack

iTJMacattack wrote:


... but the important thing to note is that if users are under the impression that they are clearing disk space ...

I dont think there will be many, if any, other users that would expect deleting something stored in one application to be also deleted from another, totally separate application library.


Can you point us to any other app combination where this is the behavior that you expected of iPhoto and Photos?

Apr 23, 2015 11:31 AM in response to Rysz

Oh, yeah. I wasn't paying enough attention late last night. Of course not!


I would recommend doing what I did which is to move the iPhoto app to an external drive along with its library file for safekeeping in case it is ever needed or wanted for something and then just use Photos.


As I mentioned above, deletion in Photos is working as designed and it does work. You can either delete photos and forget about them which gives you 30 days to retrieve any of them if you change your mind before they are automatically deleted permanently or you can use the button to immediately delete them all. That's the new trash basically which self empties every 30 or so days automatically.


I imagine you know know this Rysz, I added that last part for the OP in case any confusion remained at this point.

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